Which Grand-dad do you prefer?

[White Dog]

Maybe the OGD connoisseurs can help me decide if it's worth picking up some old bottles I saw! One was a 1.75L of OGB86 8yr with a faux strip on the cap. Said Frankfort on the bottle. Also saw a couple bonded OGD with Frankfort on the bottle (DSPKY14 I think). Would these be worth getting? Always been interested in old school OGD...

[SMOWK]

Finding ND OGD for a reasonable price in a store is on par with finding a bottle of 2002 Stagg on a shelf.

[Bourbon Boiler]

I had my first 114 last night, and I have to admit I wasn't a huge fan. I just didn't get a lot of complexity. Granted, I'd had a few Eagle Rare 10 yo before I opened the bottle, so my pallate wasn't at its sharpest and I tasted the proof increase more than anything else. I'll give it another shot in a few days, but I had hoped for a little more complexity. It's not like it was horrible, I would just rather spend another $5-$10 and go elsewhere.

I'm trying again with a fresh tounge, and it's a little better, but I just can't get into it. There's an odd flavor intitially on the finish that I can't identify, but that I don't find plesant.

[bad_scientist]

Beam told me back in the late 1980s that they had retained the OGD yeast and mash bill. Among others, I was told this by Booker Noe. I have not, however, asked them to renew the pledge annually.

In that case, the only difference would be the distillery, which is a big difference. I don't know this for sure but it's possible OGD is still aged at the Frankfort plant that was called Old Grand-Dad before Beam bought it.

[ratcheer]

The current tastes like Beam, while the others taste like rye/butterscotch.

My son's everyday pour is Beam white label. One of mine is OGD 86. The other night, we did a direct comparison. I did not find them at all similar. We both preferred the OGD, hands down. Maybe I have convinced him to switch.

And this is just regular current OGD, straight from the store.

Tim

[bad_scientist]

My son's everyday pour is Beam white label. One of mine is OGD 86. The other night, we did a direct comparison. I did not find them at all similar. We both preferred the OGD, hands down. Maybe I have convinced him to switch.

And this is just regular current OGD, straight from the store.

Tim

More like it was Beam yeast that I got, the profile I find in all Beams including Knob Creek. Also, my bottle is from 2012. The last one I had didn't taste at all like this one.

[Max Power]

I've only had the 114, but for the price, it my be my favorite. It's a very good bourbon.

[RobP_n_TN]

Yes. If they say Frankfort but not Clermont, they're ND and definately worth trying. Of course faux tax stamp and the 8 y/o age statement indicate the same, iinm.

When did Old Grand-Dad move from ND to Beam?

I picked up a 86 proof 375ml from a store that had a bunch of old stock. The bottle has 96 embossed on the bottom and the back label is marked Frankfort-Clermont, KY with a Beam UPC 80686. Is this Beam produced or possibly transition juice?

Is Beam marked "Clermont, KY" only and ND marked "Frankfort, KY" only?

I'm curious about the hyphenated town location on the 86 proof bottle.

I have a new BIB marked "Clermont, KY DSP-320."

Rob

[SMOWK]

anyone else notice a big shi(f)t? If so, when?

I noticed the shift when they went from the OGDBIB handles with orange screw tops and curvy hand grips to the bottle with an actual handle and a black screw top.

[bad_scientist]

I noticed the shift when they went from the OGDBIB handles with orange screw tops and curvy hand grips to the bottle with an actual handle and a black screw top.

...and that's what I bought. The black screw top, while all my others were orange and much more delicious. I've never bunkered anything, but I believe I'll do it this once and get all the orange top OGDs I can find.

[ethangsmith]

The BIB is phenomenal for the price, but the 114 is heavenly. I'll give the 86 another go in a few days. Wasn't impressed last time, but that doesn't mean I won't be this time. I like to try everything twice before I give it a thumbs up or thumbs down.

[spy247]

The BIB for me over the 86 and 114. I've only had the orange screw top range.

[Rutherford]

Current Beam BiB is fantastic, and one of my everyday pours. 114 is good, but too high of proof, and doesn't taste as good to me even when watered down.

[bllygthrd]

Damn ... wish I had read this thread before I made my trip to Ashland, KY today ... saw a bottle of the 114, and didn't bite. Really enjoy the BIB ...

Coulda, shoulda, woulda ... My wife told me to get the 114, but I didn't want to appear too greedy ... I was holding out for a bottle of Rock Hill Farms.

[mosugoji64]

My wife told me to get the 114, but I didn't want to appear too greedy

[LostBottle]

I prefer to hang out on the front porch people-watching with the old pervy grand-dad and a 114 to keep things interesting.

[JPBoston]

I've read thru the thread, as this topic intrigues me. I've seen several posts asking for the reason WHY 'you' prefer either BiB or 114. I'd really like to see some opinions on this as well. I'm thinking of getting either one as my next bottle, so some tasting notes between the two would be great to read.

Maybe Friday I'll run a three or four taster blind experiment with these:

OGD 114

OGD BIB

OGD 86

OGD 86 Hong Kong import (possibly dusty, I found it a couple years ago, but the label appeared old at the time)

I was also thinking of throwing another Beamer into the group. What do y'all think?

Bookers?

Bakers?

Knob Creek?

Beam Black 8, or Green label?

...or something completely different .... Blanton's? Weller 107?

or not. Just leave it at the 4 OGDs?

Also, I could arrange it so we would go up in proof so as not to shock the taste buds, but in that case it won't be blind for me.

Any suggestions?

[Brisko]

I've read thru the thread, as this topic intrigues me. I've seen several posts asking for the reason WHY 'you' prefer either BiB or 114. I'd really like to see some opinions on this as well. I'm thinking of getting either one as my next bottle, so some tasting notes between the two would be great to read.

Well, in the year-plus since I started the thread, I've worked my way through several bottles of both.

I prefer the 114 to the BiB. The 114 has more depth of flavor and finishes a bit drier (in a good way). When I say more depth of flavor, I mean more burnt brownie, more cinnamon, and more oats and grain type flavors. I used to get a little orange oil but my newest bottle doesn't seem to have it.

The BiB is less complex but the rye comes through more strongly. Recent bottles seem more Beamey to me, too. In fact it reminds me more than a little of Beam rye (not a good thing, though I don't mind Beam rye as a rule). The finish is less elegant and less satisfying. I also get some weird perfumey notes if I add water or let it open up for a while. I think this may be related to what others are calling "white dog."

I should point out that even adjusted for proof the 114 still has the edge. I'd say that it drinks better at 90 proof than the BiB does uncut. That said, I prefer it neat. Finally, the 114 seems to open up my sinuses quickly when I have a cold. None of my other high proof bourbons work as well. So the 114 is my go-to cold medicine.

With all that said, I have to go out of my way to buy the 114, so sometimes I get the BiB out of convenience. The BiB makes for a very good mixer/house bourbon.

[Flyfish]

"With all that said, I have to go out of my way to buy the 114, so sometimes I get the BiB out of convenience. The BiB makes for a very good mixer/house bourbon."--per Brisko.

I.too, prefer the OGD 114 but going out of my way means going to KY from Northern Ohio. So, when I'm in KY I buy 114. When I'm stuck in OH, I settle for the BIB. Most of the time, I am quite willing to "settle." What I object to is the ability of the liquor control gods in OH to determine what I have access to.

[The Boozer]

Either BiB or 114. Love 'em both.

[Young Blacksmith]

I have not tried 114, but it's on the short list.

I had a chance to try new production OGD 86 up against a liter of ND OGD 86, and they were surprisingly comparable. The ND had that great butterscotch rye, but the beam was a decent second place.

[ebo]

"With all that said, I have to go out of my way to buy the 114, so sometimes I get the BiB out of convenience. The BiB makes for a very good mixer/house bourbon."--per Brisko.

I.too, prefer the OGD 114 but going out of my way means going to KY from Northern Ohio. So, when I'm in KY I buy 114. When I'm stuck in OH, I settle for the BIB. Most of the time, I am quite willing to "settle." What I object to is the ability of the liquor control gods in OH to determine what I have access to.

I hear ya.

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[hectic1]

Running the entire ND OGD lineup tonight...started with some 1986 OGD 86, followed that up with some 75-83 OGD BIB, and gonna finish with some 1981 ND OGD 114.:cool:

[Kalessin]

I haven't bought OGD in years, and only recently picked up a 114. Long ago, I liked both the 86 and BiB, but I haven't tried the modern versions yet.

The 114 is quite decent neat, with a single cube, or mixed into a Manhattan (which I like fairly sweet and strong). I'd buy it again and again at the store where I found it for $20.

[c2walker]

Running the entire ND OGD lineup tonight...started with some 1986 OGD 86, followed that up with some 75-83 OGD BIB, and gonna finish with some 1981 ND OGD 114.:cool: