Hipsters Ain't What They Used To Be.

[cowdery]

In a Chicago hipster bar last night, where the beer of choice seemed to cans of PBR (the Bud Light of hipsters). Saw a guy order his with a shot of Red Stag. I don't think he sensed my opprobrium.

[ebo]

Opprobrium at what.... the PBR or the Stag?

[sutton]

Opprobrium at what.... the PBR or the Stag?

Now THAT's funny ... :slappin:

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Mark

[cowdery]

Both, I guess. One is just an affectation while the other means you're a pussy.

[sutton]

Both, I guess. One is just an affectation while the other means you're a pussy.

THAT is even funnier ... :slappin: :slappin: :slappin:

[ebo]

Both, I guess. One is just an affectation while the other means you're a pussy.

:toast:

............

[StraightNoChaser]

Does anyone else feel LESS attracted to Red Stag knowing that Kid Rock is the spokesperson?

[Bourbon Boiler]

Does anyone else feel LESS attracted to Red Stag knowing that Kid Rock is the spokesperson?

What is Red Stag's target demographic? I know it's not us (I usually don't like to lump an entire board in one group, but I feel safe with this one.), but I can't figure out who it's supposed to be.

[mrviognier]

Had heard from some of the Beam folks that they plan to expand Mr. Rock's promotional responsibilities with their brand.

Ugh.

[soad]

In a Chicago hipster bar last night, where the beer of choice seemed to cans of PBR (the Bud Light of hipsters). Saw a guy order his with a shot of Red Stag. I don't think he sensed my opprobrium.

Two confessions:

1) I had a shot of Red Stag once, it was very very early in my bourbon career and was (of course) horrible.

2) Even though I have a masters degree and I had to google the word 'opprobrium'.

[chefnash51]

While I know it's considered a hipster beer, having tasted and aged some of the finest beers in the world, I can securely say that I love a PBR from time to time.. so what?

[IronHead]

There is a bar that I visit sometimes on Friday after work that has a good beer list and pretty good food. The issue is that at about 7:00 or so the trucker hat, girl pants and "ironic" facial hair mob starts pouring in. I always try to make sure I am gone before then.

They have 12 taps that are always stocked with something I'd want to drink. But their top selling beer...PBR in a can. I just don't get it. I wouldn't even sneak drinks of that stuff when I was a kid it was so bad. That and you get the added bonus of being able to crap through a screen door the next day if you drink enough of it.

I can't tell if it is a sign of my burgeoning curmudgeon career or what, but I really think that crowd would annoy me even if I was their age.

[HP12]

PBR and a shot of Red Stag. The stereotypical picture perfect textbook example of "a shot and a beer" bar experience. I wonder if the dude was also chewing on a Slim Jim?

[PappyVW23]

I must say, i was in a bar known for it's 100's of beers last night. They even have hudreds of glasses so your beer comes in a glass with the logo on it. I ordered a PBR.( after my woodford neat, all they had) The bar tender asked if i wanted a glass. the only beer they serve that they ask you if you want a glass. I guess i was being contrary. the bar is called the mussel bar and i ordered oysters. Oh, and i like PBR. Reminds me of when i was 13.:slappin:

[Josh]

I brought a bottle of Red Stag to the Gazebo last spring. Word has it that somebody mixed it with Stagg and quite enjoyed it.:bigeyes:

[Josh]

PBR and a shot of Red Stag. The stereotypical picture perfect textbook example of "a shot and a beer" bar experience. I wonder if the dude was also chewing on a Slim Jim?

RIP

[BFerguson]

Don't feel too bad about having to look that up.

Hell, I have a doctorate and I don't what that is without looking it up.

B

Two confessions:

1) I had a shot of Red Stag once, it was very very early in my bourbon career and was (of course) horrible.

2) Even though I have a masters degree and I had to google the word 'opprobrium'.

[craigthom]

I don't think it's that anything is wrong with PBR, it's just that they very successfully marketed it as the cool beer for the too-cool-for-you crowd. It's funny because they think it's for the "irony", when in fact it's because they are sheep. It replaced Rolling Rock as the "in" standard American pilsner.

The real irony is that Pabst is brewed by Miller, their former rival. It's brewed under contract to the "Pabst Brewing Company", which is just a company that owns the names of a large number of former regional beers.

I saw a lot of billboards while traveling last fall that tell me the same company is trying to do the same thing with Schlitz, since the whole Pabst thing is a few years old and the hipsters will be looking for a new cheap "ironic" beer so they can express their individuality the same way everyone else is.

[Parkersback]

The real irony is that Pabst is brewed by Miller, their former rival. It's brewed under contract to the "Pabst Brewing Company", which is just a company that owns the names of a large number of former regional beers.

Shades of Beam now owning and making their former rivals Grand Dad, Taylor and Crow.

[LikeItWasSodaPop]

Eh, I have seen so many people order stupid things at bars, hipster and non-hipster that I think it's a bit silly to draw broad strokes from one anectdote. I've seen 6' 9" tattooed buff bros order girly drinks, I've seen seemingly straight-laced / boring chicks order badass pours neat -- from WT 101 to VW stuff. Nevertheless, I think Chuck gets it wrong in that I think "kids these days" as a general rule know more about bourbon than they did, say, 10 years ago when I was one of them. Back then Chicago (the town in question) maybe had 10 (at most) bars with a decent bourbon selection (let's define as more than 5 bourbons/ryes); today it's gotta be 50+ (and growing daily). I feel silly paying $12+ for a pour when I've got better shit at home, but for every Wild Stag ordering waxed curly mustache hipster douche there are ten others actually knowing their shit. And that just wasn't the case before.

As for the hipster hating that I see on this board and a million others, it's sort of sad. I'm probably someone who gets lumped into that contingent from time to time (oooh, pants that fit, glasses, etc.), and I wouldn't self-identify as a hipster, but the stereotyping is a bit weird. Nowadays, the internet means that more people have access to all sorts of cultural info. So it's easier than ever to affect being "hip" than ever before. It used to take work. So I'd say be cautious when it comes to making fun of younger people even though a good number of them are fucking annoying. The skewing-slightly-older audience on this board must love to make fun of "kids these days" for their retarded fashions, etc. (AS DO I), but, dudes, let's look at your fashion from back in the day. News flash: It probably doesn't hold up all so well. All's I'm saying is, kids are stupid and they always have been, always will be. The only difference w/r/t hipsters "back in the day" is that there were less of them, and thus, maybe *slightly* less likely to be self-righteous ignorant douchebags. Emphasis on slightly.

Great story, though.

Curious as to the bar. CC, any hints?

[G.H.Adams]

When I was in College PBR was called Wasted Space on the Shelf. Don't feel bad I had to look it up too. Masters in English. I guess I was intoxicated on the day that word was discussed.:slappin:

[HP12]

Pabst, Stroh's, Old Milwaukee, Shlitz, Milwaukee's Best...and many more in the brewery graveyards. It's a cyclical evolution that plays out in every aspect of life.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same"

[T Comp]

My comment...see my quote line.

[callmeox]

Both, I guess. One is just an affectation while the other means you're a pussy.

I bet they thought the combination of PBR and Red Stag was EPIC.

(BTW, if you're over the age of 20 and you pepper your conversations with the word 'epic', well...)

[BBQ+Bourbon]

Pabst, Stroh's, Old Milwaukee, Shlitz, Milwaukee's Best...and many more in the brewery graveyards. It's a cyclical evolution that plays out in every aspect of life.

"The more things change, the more they stay the same"

Old Mil shouldn't be lumped in with the others.

As for the "hipsters" and other douchebags, all I can say is that one day you will know why we are laughing at you.