Michters 10yo rye juice

[MikeK]

I've picked one of these up every once in a while for years and really enjoy it. I estimate it to be roughly 18yo in reality and it tastes very similar to BMH-18 and Saz-18.

I hear that the first runs were bottled by Julian and the label says Lawrenceburg. Current labels say Bardstown (KBD).

Does anyone know if bottles currently showing up on the shelves are the same juice that was originally used, or if they are using something different these days?

It would suck to buy a 'fresh' bottle of this and find out it is nothing like what I've enjoyed in past years.

Thanks,

[barturtle]

The only people who are going to know exactly what's in the bottle are the brand owners and KBD.

[MikeK]

True! But maybe they spilled some info...

[cowdery]

I was told some years ago by a Chatham executive that future supply of the rye was not a problem. He implied to me that the source was either ongoing or that they had obtained enough of the original whiskey to supply their needs for many years. The fact that fans of this very fine whiskey have never reported a sudden change of quality would seem to indicate that he was telling me the truth, though I still can't say which alternative explanation is the more likely one. I have always believed it to be the same as the Van Winkle rye, and Julian has indicated that what he has is a finite supply, but one that is adequate for his needs.

[barturtle]

Here's the Michter's story as I know it:

The brand is owned by a distributor/importer in NYC by the name of Chatham Imports.

I first bottled some rye and bourbon for them in September of 2000. They actually purchased some whiskey from United Distillers and the barrels were shipped to me in Lawrenceburg. I think both the rye and bourbon were 10-years old. I only bottled the whiskey for them. None of that whiskey was mine.I bottled a few more cases of bourbon in April of 2002. That was the last I did for them. Thought the rye was better than the bourbon at the time. I think both were distilled at UD's Bernheim plant here in Louisville.

They wanted me to continue bottling the brand for them, but as you all know, I closed down my bottling operation in Lawrenceburg last July. So I told Chatham to call Evan K. He is now scheduled to bottle their Michter's label. I tasted the whiskey recently and it tastes alot like HH to me, but I'm not sure. About the only distillerys selling bulk whiskey these days are HH & UD.

Chatham is now using a new round bottle, but I don't think they have bottled any yet in Bardstown.

I hope that explains a few things about this mysterious "whiskey business".

PS. I think I saw in one of Chuck's posts in this Michter's thread that I had bottled all my stocks of Stitzel-Weller bourbon, and I should be now using Buffalo Trace's stock. I actually had SW make whiskey for me as far back as 1982, up til 1992, so I'll be using that distilation under my label for quite sometime. I'll be using BT whiskey for the first time perhaps next year for my 10-year old.

Julian

Julian says the ones he did weren't the same stock as his

[humchan2k]

And when was this quote from Julian, out of curiousity? I ask because I'd love to know if the next year or two will still be SW stuff for Pappy 15

[barturtle]

And when was this quote from Julian, out of curiousity? I ask because I'd love to know if the next year or two will still be SW stuff for Pappy 15

It's quite old, 2003.

[unclebunk]

My bottle of the 10 YO, purchased two weeks ago, is mighty fine.

[White Dog]

Just ask KBD. They're always more than happy to bring clarity to these types of questions. :cool:

[cowdery]

Just ask KBD. They're always more than happy to bring clarity to these types of questions. :cool:

I'm sure they curse you for even mentioning them, you ignorant slut.

[White Dog]

:slappin: :slappin:

[tommyboy38]

I don't touch the new bottles BECAUSE I don't know what's in it.

Too much to pay for a 10 yr old.