PVW15 Dot Matrix Numbers

[wripvanwrinkle]

I apologize in advance as I'm almost certain that this has been discussed. Unfortunately though, I was unable to find the the appropriate thread.

I think that Colorado did not distribite the Spring Van Winkle allocation. Today, i was fortunate enough to pick up a bottle of PVW 15. This led me to wonder if my bottle was from the Spring 2011 or Fall 2011 distribution.

I'm unsure if there is a way to truly date these bottles, but on the bottle's side (near the bottom) is a dot matrix printed value. The value on my bottle reads:

K0760908:13

This compares to the value from the bottle that I bought last year:

K0750912:51

Do these values somehow decode to a bottled on date? If not, are they sequential? If sequential, does anyone know the ranges that correspond to the appropriate releases?

[jeanraulmitchell]

A bottle I got in the spring reads K0780907:21. It was purchased in Los Angeles.

[RyanL]

This has been asked before and someone answered it but I'm not sure where and I don't remember the details of what they said but the info is on here somewhere.

[silverfish]

I'm unsure if there is a way to truly date these bottles, but on the bottle's side (near the bottom) is a dot matrix printed value. The value on my bottle reads:

K0760908:13

This compares to the value from the bottle that I bought last year:

K0750912:51

Like Ryan, I recall seeing the explanation recently but can't

recall where.

I believe the last four are time - 08:13 am and 12:51 pm.

The 09 before that is the year (2009) and the letters and

first three numbers are month & date but I'm not sure how

they translate.

[sku]

K0760908:13

K bottling line

76th day of the year (March 17 - Happy St. Patty's Day )

2009

8:13am

[bcrossan]

Where exactly is the code? I have never noticed before and I just grabbed one of mine from the Spring 2011 release and can't seem to find a code

[bcrossan]

Where exactly is the code? I have never noticed before and I just grabbed one of mine from the Spring 2011 release and can't seem to find a code

Nevermind. The one I grabbed had it covered by the label, so I could read it through the front but inverted.

[wripvanwrinkle]

K bottling line

76th day of the year (March 17 - Happy St. Patty's Day )

2009

8:13am

Thanks, Sku! I was thinking that the 076 was probably a julian date, but for some reason thought that they usually bottled in the fall.

[sku]

So I wonder why these (the ones that have been listed in this thread) all seem to have 2009 bottling dates?

[smokinjoe]

So I wonder why these (the ones that have been listed in this thread) all seem to have 2009 bottling dates?

In the PVW Clarification thread in November of 2010, Julian Van Winkle posted:

"In the last couple of years, we bottled up a 2-3 year supply of 15, 16 year to sell as 15 year Pappy. We still have some 20 year S/W in barrels to bottle as 20 year."

I believe he was confirming at the time that all of that whiskey was SW, but it may also indicate that they did a big bottling, and have been piecemealing it out, since. So, I guess you could infer that this falls release is from the same bottling as the last couple of releases.

[Clavius]

The two bottles of 15 that I got from the latest release have the following numbers:

Bottle #1: K3001107:46

Bottle #2: K3001107:34

[bad_scientist]

In the PVW Clarification thread in November of 2010, Julian Van Winkle posted:

"In the last couple of years, we bottled up a 2-3 year supply of 15, 16 year to sell as 15 year Pappy. We still have some 20 year S/W in barrels to bottle as 20 year."

I believe he was confirming at the time that all of that whiskey was SW, but it may also indicate that they did a big bottling, and have been piecemealing it out, since. So, I guess you could infer that this falls release is from the same bottling as the last couple of releases.

Except that he said that the 15 year is now BT, and was worried how it would be received.

[Josh]

Ah, the Julian Calendar.

[sku]

So it sounds like they did a big SW bottling in 09 that held them through 2010 and maybe even constituted some of this year's release and then did a BT run this year.

[Chris24]

Except that he said that the 15 year is now BT, and was worried how it would be received.

So...it's out now. SW or not, how does it taste?

[BFerguson]

So...it's out now. SW or not, how does it taste?

Yes it is. Listen to the recent K&L podcast from their spirits page, and Preston clearly stated the the 15yr is now BT distillate.

Haven't seen the new bottles yet myself. Somebody else will have to weigh in.

B

[smokinjoe]

So it sounds like they did a big SW bottling in 09 that held them through 2010 and maybe even constituted some of this year's release and then did a BT run this year.

That's what it sounds like to me, too.

For those interested, I've PM'd Kickert to have him check the bottles he picked up for me in Djibouti, to see when they were bottled.

[BradleyC]

That's what it sounds like to me, too.

For those interested, I've PM'd Kickert to have him check the bottles he picked up for me in Djibouti, to see when they were bottled.

Those were actually bottled NEXT fall (9/2012). By transferring the barrels to the rickhouse in Djibouti they were able to stop the aging process and keep the never ending 1992 distillate from getting any older. The laser code has a "DJ" in the beginning of the code indicating it came off the Djibouti bottling line.

[smokinjoe]

Those were actually bottled NEXT fall (9/2012). By transferring the barrels to the rickhouse in Djibouti they were able to stop the aging process and keep the never ending 1992 distillate from getting any older. The laser code has a "DJ" in the beginning of the code indicating it came off the Djibouti bottling line.

Well done, sir.

.....................

[clingman71]

The two bottles of 15 that I got from the latest release have the following numbers:

Bottle #1: K3001107:46

Bottle #2: K3001107:34

What does the letter signify? Mine are all "N"s

N3001109:24 x2

N3001109:27

[sku]

What does the letter signify? Mine are all "N"s

N3001109:24 x2

N3001109:27

The letter is the bottling line at BT.

[sku]

That's what it sounds like to me, too.

Cue hundreds of people calling their retailer saying they don't just want a PVW 15, they want a 2009.

[BFerguson]

The letter is the bottling line at BT.

Do you know the total number of lines, and corresponding letters for BT? Are there more than the two?

Inquiring minds want to know.

B

[MacinJosh]

Yes it is. Listen to the recent K&L podcast from their spirits page, and Preston clearly stated the the 15yr is now BT distillate.

Haven't seen the new bottles yet myself. Somebody else will have to weigh in.

B

Link: http://spiritsjournal.klwines.com/klwinescom-spirits-blog/2011/11/17/kl-spirits-podcast-21-j-preston-van-winkle.html

Start at the 14:00 mark.

[Josh]

We seem to be forgetting about Bernheim distillate here and the fact that the Van Winkles may be blending the products of multiple distilleries.

As for what Preston said, the Van Winkles have said so many different things over the years I would take that with a sizable grain of salt.