Thomas handy vs Party Source's A Smith Bowman

[trumpstylz]

Has anyone had both of these (also- has anyone had barrel #5 and the single barrel rye)? Do you have a favorite? Opinions and details also welcome.

[jburlowski]

Has anyone had both of these (also- has anyone had barrel #5 and the single barrel rye)? Do you have a favorite? Opinions and details also welcome.

I've had both and, IMO, the Bowman is way better than the Handy.

Nuff said !

[T Comp]

I've had both and, IMO, the Bowman is way better than the Handy.

Nuff said !

Same here and Nuff said too!

[hectic1]

Correct...you're talking about esentually the same whiskey with an additional 3-4yrs of age on it depending on the year of Handy that you're talking about. Typically Handy's are 6 to 7yrs where the Bowman is 10yrs.

[ErichPryde]

Bowman vs Handy?

tell me where you can find handy for ~70 bucks these days.

tell me where you can find a 10 year old, barrel proof rye for ~70 bucks.

Better or worse than Handy? I don't know. it's got more age. It's spectacular whiskey. Primarily though, it's the price-to-age ratio that blows handy out of the water.

[G.H.Adams]

I have both on my bar and I think the Bowman is somewhat better than Handy but then it is older. I like them both.

[MacinJosh]

Correct...you're talking about esentually the same whiskey with an additional 3-4yrs of age on it depending on the year of Handy that you're talking about. Typically Handy's are 6 to 7yrs where the Bowman is 10yrs.

Bob, can you elaborate how they're essentially the same? Aren't they produced at two different distilleries? Same mashbill?

Josh

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[Jwilly019]

Bob, can you elaborate how they're essentially the same? Aren't they produced at two different distilleries? Same mashbill?

Josh

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I can't seem to find the link anymore (I'm pretty sure it was here though), but I remember reading that A. Smith Bowman sources their distillate from BT, which only produces one rye mashbill. Ageing is sometimes done in KY, sometimes in VA, and sometimes in both states.

For what it's worth, Wikipedia mentions that Bowman is actually a part of Sazerac.

[ErichPryde]

Josh, bowman apparently takes bt distillate and distills it one additional time in va. Other than that this is bt juice aged art another home. And considering its a rye, its possible our was simply aged at bt with no additional distilling.

[T Comp]

Bob, can you elaborate how they're essentially the same? Aren't they produced at two different distilleries? Same mashbill?

Josh

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Josh, bowman apparently takes bt distillate and distills it one additional time in va. Other than that this is bt juice aged art another home. And considering its a rye, its possible our was simply aged at bt with no additional distilling.

Truman Cox has related that the barrels making up the limited edition rye were not redistilled and just transferred around the 6 year mark to age for 4 more years at Bowman in Virginia. He believes the change in climate, rick house and 4 years of age are what makes the difference. Sazerac bought the Bowman distillery in 2003 and our own Truman Cox was made master distiller this year.

[MacinJosh]

So let me see if I have this straight, the A. Bowman 10yr rye is Thomas H. Handy aged for 4 more years in a different state.

Do I have this correct?

Josh

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[Old Lamplighter]

That sho what it sound like. I ordered 2 today from TPS...really looking forward to it.