SB Blend Question?

[SeaninSD]

New guy question for you, I keep reading about the "SB blend" of OWA and WL 12 and wondered why / how it works? Meaning, why is the sum better than the parts? I've only ever had OWA as WL 12 seems hard to find around here, so I haven't tried the SB blend, but hopefully will soon. If the WL 12 is the "better" bourbon, compared to the OWA, why mix them at a 1 to 1 ratio? Not doubting the results, just curious how / why it works and what you like about it. Thanks!

[luther.r]

New guy question for you, I keep reading about the "SB blend" of OWA and WL 12 and wondered why / how it works? Meaning, why is the sum better than the parts? I've only ever had OWA as WL 12 seems hard to find around here, so I haven't tried the SB blend, but hopefully will soon. If the WL 12 is the "better" bourbon, compared to the OWA, why mix them at a 1 to 1 ratio? Not doubting the results, just curious how / why it works and what you like about it. Thanks!

[Gillman]

Each, being the same bourbon but at different levels of aging and proof, will have an intentionally different palate, a "profile". I'd argue that Weller 12 is not better, but different.

Blending the two, or what is technically "mingling" (both are bourbons from the same house and no neutral spirits or other things are added), will produce a third palate that pleases many. Also, the proof will alter to that of the average of the two, upwards of 100 proof. Some people like a bourbon stronger than 90 but less strong than 107.

Distilleries blend (mingle) bourbons all the time, i.e., mix bourbons of different ages to get a profile deemed suitable for the public taste. We can do it too, it's not an arcane science but more the idea to balance characteristics or arrange them in a certain way to get a result that is liked. While 1:1 seems popular, indeed to the point of being dubbed the "SB" approach for this mingling, many other options are available. You can mix them in different proportions, introduce 90 proof W.L. Weller Special Reserve in the picture and/or the BTAC William Larue Weller, or indeed rye-recipe bourbons from Buffalo Trace or even other distilleries.

It's good to start, for those inclined, in a simple way and then develop it from there.

Gary

[Gillman]

Another good mingling of the two would be to add just enough Weller 12 to OWA to bring the latter's proof to 100, a nice round number, but also, you are "seasoning" the younger bourbon with some older. The younger element dominates but is leavened by the gravitas of age. A May-to-December marriage.

Gary

[cowdery]

For the sake of the newbie, I should mention that Mr. Gillman is our leading authority on such matters, to the point where a subtle blend of two or more bourbons is known as "a gillman," and the process of making them is, of course, "gillmanizing."

[jcg9779]

For the sake of the newbie, I should mention that Mr. Gillman is our leading authority on such matters, to the point where a subtle blend of two or more bourbons is known as "a gillman," and the process of making them is, of course, "gillmanizing."

Mr. Gillman served a gillman to show off the art of gillmanizing.

[jcg9779]

For the sake of the newbie, I should mention that Mr. Gillman is our leading authority on such matters, to the point where a subtle blend of two or more bourbons is known as "a gillman," and the process of making them is, of course, "gillmanizing."

Mr. Gillman served a gillman after showing the art of gillmanizing.

[Gillman]

Thanks gents, and of course the question was perfectly legitimate and indeed understandable. Mixing the hard liquors in your bar, outside the cocktails context, is not something encountered every day.

I did try to give a short explanation though of why I think it's justified to do this. (That said, I know many bourbon veterans who shy away from it, and that's fine of course).

I've always felt, honestly without false modesty although I appreciate the nod, that no name, my own or any other, should be attached to the practice. It's so intuitive and logical that nothing of the sort is warranted.

Gary

P.S. I'm mixing threads this time (sorry), but can't help but note that that was a great line you got off about bitters when they taste bad, Chuck: one of your best.

[SeaninSD]

Thanks for all the replies and the information. I do understand the reason for the blend / mingle now. And with my day off today, I was able to find some WL 12 so I'll be trying the SB blend soon.

[Old Lamplighter]

If you get a chance or if Weller 12 is hard to find in the future, give a WSR & OWA mingling a try as well. I tried it prior to 12 & OWA. Not quite the depth but every bit as good.

[cowdery]

The idea to combine W12 and OWA is brilliant and actually very much like what the distilleries do.

[jcg9779]

Thanks for all the replies and the information. I do understand the reason for the blend / mingle now. And with my day off today, I was able to find some WL 12 so I'll be trying the SB blend soon.

The "SB Blend" also vaguely refers to trying to find a close match to Weller Centennial. Weller Centennial was a 10 year, 100 proof bourbon and by blending Weller 12 with OWA at a 1:1 ratio you get a bourbon that is almost 9 years and 98.5 proof. Not quite the same but fairly close.

[fishnbowljoe]

If you get a chance or if Weller 12 is hard to find in the future, give a WSR & OWA mingling a try as well. I tried it prior to 12 & OWA. Not quite the depth but every bit as good.

I like the Weller 12 the way it is. My vatting is OWA and Weller SR too. The one I most recently did was of two private bottlings. Kahn's OWA and Everett's Weller SR. Delicious. :yum:

[SeaninSD]

I tried the SB Blend for the first time tonight. First I tried the OWA and WL 12 separately and then tried the blend; I do like the blend better than the two parts as it seems smoother, less bite, and has more wood flavor. I like the blend and may blend up a full bottle.

[greens]

What was the blend ratio on this again? 1/3rd OWA and 2/3rds Weller 12 or half and half of each? I can't recall.

[Ejmharris]

What was the blend ratio on this again? 1/3rd OWA and 2/3rds Weller 12 or half and half of each? I can't recall.

It is 1:1. So half of each. I plan to go get one of each soon to start experimenting a little with blending. I have each right now but I already enjoy both by themselves. I do have to put a splash of water in the OWA though.

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[clingman71]

What was the blend ratio on this again? 1/3rd OWA and 2/3rds Weller 12 or half and half of each? I can't recall.

It can be whatever ratio suits you. I've done 1:1 and enjoyed it. I have also blended a 1l W12 with a 750 OWA, enjoyed this as well. I also save the old bottles so that as I blend, I only fill the bottles to 2/3 or 3/4 full to air it a bit.

[Flyfish]

It is not exactly gillmanizing, but I like to have my Weller 12 YO and OWA side-by-side rather than mingled. Take sniff of this and then a sniff of that; a sip of this and then take a sip of that. A lot to like in both. I don't think you have to choose one or the other, compromise or "triangulate." Why not just have both and be done with it?

[clingman71]

It is not exactly gillmanizing, but I like to have my Weller 12 YO and OWA side-by-side rather than mingled. Take sniff of this and then a sniff of that; a sip of this and then take a sip of that. A lot to like in both. I don't think you have to choose one or the other, compromise or "triangulate." Why not just have both and be done with it?

There is magic and mojo that occurs after a month or two of being mingled in the bottle. If I were you, I'd mix up some SB blend and let it do its thing for awhile. Then have a three pour tasting of the OWA, W12, & SB blend. I'm not sure why I haven't done this myself.

[dridge11]

Doing a bourbon tasting next week, might have to try this gillman for the first time in our Weller flight.

[wadewood]

My vote is for blending the following:

1.75l of OWA - 107 proof

1.75l of Weller 12

.75l of WLW (above 129 proof)

[smokinjoe]

My vote is for blending the following:

1.75l of OWA - 107 proof

1.75l of Weller 12

.75l of WLW (above 129 proof)

[Tico]

In what? A 5 gallon Home Depot Orange Bucket?

[Clavius]

In what? A 5 gallon Home Depot Orange Bucket?

[timd]

In what? A 5 gallon Home Depot Orange Bucket?

Maybe a 5 liter barrel for a week or so? Could even top off with some water (heaven forbid!) or possibly a splash of straight Rye to add another layer of complexity.

I wouldn't leave it in the wood for too long - otherwise it could get funky with a small new barrel, but letting it sit for a few days wouldn't hurt - and could help the process - plus leave you with some great flavors on the wood for aging something else.