Some Basil Hayden Love.

[cowdery]

Your assuming my 'assumption.' Product does not need to be 'distressed' to be dealt like this. It's probably a need for the distributor to do whatever it takes to hit year-end numbers for a powerful supplier like Beam. If this is the case, and it usually is in December, that means BH isn't selling thru in Wisconsin as expected. Hence, BH isn't the great success story that some may think it is. It's one thing to force lots of distribution, which Beam can do, but it's another for the product to actually sell thru.

Still wrong. Most deals are about moving volume and generating sampling and pantry loading, not about forcing an unloved product through the system, but you're so cynical and negative about everything I'm not surprised you can't see that.

[White Dog]

Still wrong. Most deals are about moving volume and generating sampling and pantry loading, not about forcing an unloved product through the system, but you're so cynical and negative about everything I'm not surprised you can't see that.

That's right, Chuck. I only work in wine wholesale, and as such deal with these same retailers every day and discuss said deals. But what do I know??? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[White Dog]

Still wrong. Most deals are about moving volume and generating sampling and pantry loading, not about forcing an unloved product through the system, but you're so cynical and negative about everything I'm not surprised you can't see that.

And what did I just say? Yes, it is about volume. They need to move volume to hit an un-acheived year-end goal.

[cowdery]

Since you're so in-the-know, you know that Beam is one of the most deal-driven companies in the business. You've again framed it as a negative -- "to hit an un-achieved year-end goal" -- when while that may be the case, it isn't necessarily the case.

But you do seem really bitter about the whole business and that's a shame. You need to find a job that makes you happy.

[White Dog]

Since you're so in-the-know, you know that Beam is one of the most deal-driven companies in the business. You've again framed it as a negative -- "to hit an un-achieved year-end goal" -- when while that may be the case, it isn't necessarily the case.

But you do seem really bitter about the whole business and that's a shame. You need to find a job that makes you happy.

I'm happier than you realize, Chuck. But I have a very rare disease that makes me speak honestly at all times.

[Josh]

Since you're so in-the-know, you know that Beam is one of the most deal-driven companies in the business. You've again framed it as a negative -- "to hit an un-achieved year-end goal" -- when while that may be the case, it isn't necessarily the case.

But you do seem really bitter about the whole business and that's a shame. You need to find a job that makes you happy.

I'm happier than you realize, Chuck. But I have a very rare disease that makes me speak honestly at all times.

You're both wrong. It's because they're going to be removing the age statement and replacing it with a Col. Basil H. Hayden BiB which will all come from a single batch of barrels that are 8, 9 and 29 years old. All the barrels were made from a single oak tree under which Jim Beam was concieved in 1864.

[M Pickle]

You're both wrong. It's because they're going to be removing the age statement and replacing it with a Col. Basil H. Hayden BiB which will all come from a single batch of barrels that are 8, 9 and 29 years old. All the barrels were made from a single oak tree under which Jim Beam was concieved in 1864.

Now that's funny!

When can I buy a bottle?:grin:

[cowdery]

I'm happier than you realize, Chuck. But I have a very rare disease that makes me speak honestly at all times.

I have many symptoms of that same disease but I've found ways to manage it so I don't sound quite so, what's the word? Crotchety.

Do you deny that there are times when companies like Beam run deals on successful products in an effort to make them even more successful?

And I predict that Col. Basil H. Hayden BiB will be the next Pappy.

[Josh]

Now that's funny!

When can I buy a bottle?:grin:

When the first batch of KBD-distilled bourbon is released.

[White Dog]

I have many symptoms of that same disease but I've found ways to manage it so I don't sound quite so, what's the word? Crotchety.

Do you deny that there are times when companies like Beam run deals on successful products in an effort to make them even more successful?

And I predict that Col. Basil H. Hayden BiB will be the next Pappy.

I don't deny that successful products get put on deal to increase sales. It happens all the time.

And I suppose you would say that running a half off special is par for the course, Chuck. You know best.

[Bourbon Boiler]

I would guess that the BiB gets the best young barrels. Because it has to be all from the same season, there's no room to "hide" subpar barrels. The 86 and 114 would give a lot more flexibility.

My own limited experience is that the BiB is every bit as good if not better than the 114.

Of course fo vatting purposes the 114 is ideal. The end product should be at least 100 proof, I think.

And Bourbon Boiler, I think the small batch collection gets short shrift. Aside from BH it's everything we claim to want: age stated, high proof, unfiltered in the case of Booker's, single barrel with KC... And Baker's is way, way underrated in my opinion.

Agree on the Bakers. No product is for everyone, but it's nice to have something available at a lot of bars that's better than the "regulars".

[Bourbon Boiler]

I wonder how a vatting of OGD114 and BH would go? Similar in concept to OWA & Weller 12. Bring the proof into a 100-105 range. If I ever buy another bottle of BH maybe I will try it. I always have OGD114 on hand.

I just mixed them 50-50, and didn't like the result. The initial taste seems to be empty, and the finish, while powerful, is not complex and lasts long enough to spoil the next sip. I prefer either drink individually.