Barrel/Cask Strength Bourbons

[JayMonster]

Wow...look at this post from the resident expert on finish...have you had the OWA that Dave is referring to? Well, I can answer that question...NO. So your comments here regarding OWA are ill-advised to say the least.

Finish like the rest of the bourbon experience is subjective...without a doubt based on your post here you and I have a different point of reference on what's important.

Your hypothesis that anything that isn't BP will have a something wrong with it is another one I completely disagree with...see Pappy 15, Weller Centennial, WT Tribute, VSOF, etc...I could go on and on and on!

Yeah, I rambled a bit (sorry about that), but expert??? :slappin: :slappin:

Never claimed to be, nor have a desire to be, and tried to emphasize as much quite vehemently to ensure it wasn't taken as such. I don't stand on a soapbox and preach. I just give my (subjective) opinion... long winded as it may be. Sorry if it came off as anything but a long and perhaps over-caffeinated response.

Nope, haven't have the OWA he spoke of, and obviously I can't form an opinion based on what others have had, only my own. So, ill-advised? I'm not so sure... just a difference of opinion based on different experiences.

The BP hypothesis, is NOT mine. I agree with you there. And somewhere in the middle of my ramblings was that point, that there are plenty of non-BP products that have a great finish.

[jburlowski]

Well, actually... 1/2 of all bourbons have an "above average" finish.

Actually, I think you are confusing "average" and "mean".

[JayMonster]

Actually, I think you are confusing "average" and "mean".

[wripvanwrinkle]

Ok, I got the "where everyone's child is above average" joke...

Personally, I find no correlation between ABV and finish. For me, Devil's Cut is an example of a surprisingly good finish that happens to come at a lower ABV.

[c2walker]

In hindsight, I should have purchased a bottle of the barrel proof Abraham Bowman when I had the chance. That is the last time I hesitate. :smiley_acbt: The main reason I enjoy the barrel proof bourbons is that they typically have a more intense flavor. I could really care less what proof a bourbon is, but haven't found many non-barrel proof bourbons that can deliver enough flavor other than wood. Most times the finish is short or non-existent.

Has anyone had any luck with non-barrel proof bourbons that pack a punch in the flavor department and have an above average finish?

Not to add insult to injury, but I'm sipping the Abraham Bowman Small Batch Barrel Proof right now and it's absolutely sublime. It's surprisingly drinkable neat and has a loooong finish. Now, I haven't tried too many bourbons aged as long as 18 years, but, as far as my tastes are concerned, it blows the BTEC 1991 and 1989 that I tried the other night out of the water.

[Moretorque05]

Tossing it into the mix... W.H. Harrison Governors Reserve is barrel proof and very much straight from the barrel. I bought a bottle a few days ago and haven't tried it yet, but there sure is a lot of stuff floating around in there. I believe the barrel proof claim!

[awachatz]

Tossing it into the mix... W.H. Harrison Governors Reserve is barrel proof and very much straight from the barrel. I bought a bottle a few days ago and haven't tried it yet, but there sure is a lot of stuff floating around in there. I believe the barrel proof claim!

It's very good if you enjoy high rye bourbons.

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[Bmac]

Speaking of "cask strength" there is a store here in town that has a bottle of Four Roses Small Batch Limited Edition for 89 dollars.

I read up on it and it's supposed to be cask strength.

The question i have is it worth the aggressive price?

I have 4R single barrel and love it.

[awachatz]

Speaking of "cask strength" there is a store here in town that has a bottle of Four Roses Small Batch Limited Edition for 89 dollars.

I read up on it and it's supposed to be cask strength.

The question i have is it worth the aggressive price?

I have 4R single barrel and love it.

I just picked up the 2011 LE FRSB for $69.99. I have heard good things about it, but there is only one to truly find out. I will need to crack it open soon and give it a try.

[Phil T]

Speaking of "cask strength" there is a store here in town that has a bottle of Four Roses Small Batch Limited Edition for 89 dollars.

I read up on it and it's supposed to be cask strength.

The question i have is it worth the aggressive price?

I have 4R single barrel and love it.

Both the '10&'11 LE SmB are very good, you won't be disappointed .. The $89 price is too high, you should be able to find it about $20 cheaper.

[BillP]

Both the '10&'11 LE SmB are very good, you won't be disappointed .. The $89 price is too high, you should be able to find it about $20 cheaper.

Love this! But I found it around $35 or so on sale.

Bill

[BillP]

Love this! But I found it around $35 or so on sale.

Bill

Sorry - this is 4R1B.

Bill

[AaronWF]

Speaking of "cask strength" there is a store here in town that has a bottle of Four Roses Small Batch Limited Edition for 89 dollars.

I read up on it and it's supposed to be cask strength.

The question i have is it worth the aggressive price?

I have 4R single barrel and love it.

Yes, it's a $90 bourbon. It should only be around $79 at the most, but it's worth $90. Give it a few weeks to open up, but if you love the 1B, this'll knock your socks off.

I'm referring to the 2011 btw. The 2010 is also sublime, but I only just opened mine in the last week.

I hate to self-promote, but I did write about the 2011: http://whiskeywonka.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/four-roses-2011-limited-edition-small-batch/

[Bmac]

Sorry - this is 4R1B.

Bill

LoL, i was about to cry for a second feeling that the whiskey gods must surely curseTexas

[Bmac]

Yes, it's a $90 bourbon. It should only be around $79 at the most, but it's worth $90. Give it a few weeks to open up, but if you love the 1B, this'll knock your socks off.

I'm referring to the 2011 btw. The 2010 is also sublime, but I only just opened mine in the last week.

I hate to self-promote, but I did write about the 2011: http://whiskeywonka.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/four-roses-2011-limited-edition-small-batch/

Great review. That flavor profile is right up my alley. I am certain i wont find it anywhere else, so i will just have to flush that 20 dollars. Its not that big of a deal if its good whiskey.

Thanks.

[M14Shooter]

I had the chance to try the 2012 LE Single Barrel.it was great juice.The nose was full of butter and it had a great spicy finish.It was 114 Proof.Iforgot to ask Al Young what the Yeast Strain was used in this bottling.IMHO the 2012 LE Single Barrel is gone to be something special.Just wanted to give our group a heads up.

Regards,Mike

[Bmac]

I had the chance to try the 2012 LE Single Barrel.it was great juice.The nose was full of butter and it had a great spicy finish.It was 114 Proof.Iforgot to ask Al Young what the Yeast Strain was used in this bottling.IMHO the 2012 LE Single Barrel is gone to be something special.Just wanted to give our group a heads up.

Regards,Mike

[M14Shooter]

It was a barrel sample.I think He said it would be released in a few weeks.

Regards,Mike

[TomH]

Iforgot to ask Al Young what the Yeast Strain was used in this bottling.IMHO the 2012 LE Single Barrel is gone to be something special.Just wanted to give our group a heads up.

Regards,Mike

The 2012 LE SB bottling is an OESK. I tasted it myself this weekend (at the 'N" Ultimate Whisky Experience) and agree that it is an excellent release.

Tom

[Bmac]

It was a barrel sample.I think He said it would be released in a few weeks.

Regards,Mike

There should be a sticky thread about special/limited edition/annual releases

[p_elliott]

There should be a sticky thread about special/limited edition/annual releases

There is a forum for it you have been to it.

[Bmac]

There is a forum for it you have been to it.

The Specialty Bottling one, right? I'll keep a closer watch on it.