brewcrew Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 I was given a 1 liter charred oak barrel by a friend in my homebrew club. I was thinking of starting out with some bourbon in the barrel but am having a hard time deciding what. Has anyone tried this?What would you start with? I originally thought of putting something simple in like Maker's Mark to see what differences would occur with some extra age in a barrel. Then I thought maybe instead I would get a bottom shelf brand and see if it gets any better with additional age. Then I thought maybe some "white dog" they sell would be a nice experiment to develop my own private bourbon. I assume the time in the barrel would be less due to greater contact area for such a small sample.Any ideas or suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 If you add bourbon to the barrel you won't get a bourbon that has been aged more...you will get a woodier bourbon...and pretty quickly at that.I wouldnt waste white dog on the experiment since it needs more than just exposure to wood to mature. Try putting in something that you think would improve with the addition of oak flavors and keep a close eye on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 See here for a small reference:http://straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16346 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I tried this using a 5 liter barrel. Placed 5 liters of Evan Williams BIB in it and left it 30 days. I now have 4.9 liters of VERY strong, pine-like flavored nasty bourbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c2walker Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I tried this using a 5 liter barrel. Placed 5 liters of Evan Williams BIB in it and left it 30 days. I now have 4.9 liters of VERY strong, pine-like flavored nasty bourbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 My experiment was a failure as well, but I just left the whiskey in the barrel...guests seem to get a kick out of pouring straight from the barrel and when covered up with coke it doesn't really matter how it tastes. So, good tasting bourbon: Fail. Novelty: Win. Do you allow the bourbon to get stronger and stronger.I have thought about finding a way to seal the inside of the barrel with a resin or something and do the same but haven't found an easy way to do it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadewood Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 I ruined some WT and then tried some 4Roses YL with same result. Thinking I might try aging soy sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddinjax Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Yeah, I think you have to have some level of trust that the folks making bourbon know what they're doing...when they make a bourbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyhour24x7 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I have a couple of friends who have used small barrel to age manhattans and have them " on tap". Worked pretty well in my opinion, although one of them (actually a local bar) had to bottle them after a certain point when they started to overage. Going to try that myself shortly. Another friend tried it with JD and Jameson- he figured both were good but could use some oomph. The JD turned out ok, but the Jameson was ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I actually have some good news in this thread. In the old one I was following (among others) some 51/49 corn/wheat from the Grand Traverse Distillery since last summer. I pulled the remains of it today, and I have to say I really enjoyed the taste of what came out. It was very dark, the color of a dark supermarket brand syrup. The nose wasn't anything remarkable, just a typical bourbon. The mouthfeel was heavy and viscous, but short of "chewy". It's one of those where you can take a very small sip, but still get a very strong flavor. The initial flavor was very good, and more complex than it had been through the aging process. I picked up notes of citrus, cinnamon, and tobacco. The finish was long, strong, and very heavily loaded with oak.Basically I spent $60 and 6 months making a product that I would buy any day for $35 to enjoy later that night. But as I remind myself, it's more about the journey than the destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Basically I spent $60 and 6 months making a product that I would buy any day for $35 to enjoy later that night. But as I remind myself, it's more about the journey than the destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokinjoe Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I actually have some good news in this thread. In the old one I was following (among others) some 51/49 corn/wheat from the Grand Traverse Distillery since last summer. I pulled the remains of it today, and I have to say I really enjoyed the taste of what came out. It was very dark, the color of a dark supermarket brand syrup. The nose wasn't anything remarkable, just a typical bourbon. The mouthfeel was heavy and viscous, but short of "chewy". It's one of those where you can take a very small sip, but still get a very strong flavor. The initial flavor was very good, and more complex than it had been through the aging process. I picked up notes of citrus, cinnamon, and tobacco. The finish was long, strong, and very heavily loaded with oak.Basically I spent $60 and 6 months making a product that I would buy any day for $35 to enjoy later that night. But as I remind myself, it's more about the journey than the destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I have a couple of friends who have used small barrel to age manhattans and have them " on tap". Worked pretty well in my opinion, although one of them (actually a local bar) had to bottle them after a certain point when they started to overage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyhour24x7 Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 BB, I will have to check for you and let you know. I know bitters were not added to my glass when one was poured for me. I seem to remember one of them saying that the bitters were in there, but I'd rather be sure. Stay tuned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Bravo, BB! 10 bucks a month for some fun. Sounds like a deal to me. :toast:Thanks Joe. Put that way, it is a deal. One thing I'm glad I did was save about 2 ounces from every 2-3 weeks (give or take, there's a gap or two in there) so I can go back and do a vertical tasting on it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I did a similar thing with my 5 liter barrel and distillate from GTD. The first fill was not great but not terrible either. For the second fill I put some BT White Dag in there and it turned out much better. The third fill, peated Malt from GTD, was even better, but I left it in a tad too long. I am currently trying to decide whether to cut it up for smoker chips or try something else in there. Knob Creek Single Barrel with a peated cask finish might be interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewcrew Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 Thanks for the info!BB - Thanks for the link to the other threads. I did a search before i posted and didn't find anything. You will have to update us on the vertical. Seems like there were regular changes during the aging process based on your other updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bourbon Boiler Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 I barreled a mix of VOB, Vermouth, Brandy, and Bitters today in the barrel previously used for the wheated bourbon. I don't plan to let this sit too long, since everything has already aged at least to the minimum already. I do enjoy the thought of offering someone a Manhattan directly from the barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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