Buffalo Trace/Van Winkle/Stitzl-Weller question

[Special Reserve]

I think Heaven Hill or Buffalo Trace could/should be able to put out a whiskey worthy of SW.

I know they did, try PHC 10.

[Bmac]

I know they did, try PHC 10.

I have PHC 1st ed, 3rd ed, and the new 5th ed. They are all tremendous whiskeys and i love them. The PVW just thag little extra something in the finish that gives me spontaneous permagrin . Its like difference between "oh, that's good!" and "woe, holy shnikies that's amazing!"

[T Comp]

...Some people say a roller is better because it does not heat the grain, like a hammer mill. I disagree. We use a hammer mill and it flies through there so fast it does not have time to get hot. One thing grinding bigger does is hurt your yield.

Shhh...your hurting the Maker's tour guide's schtick :grin: .

[hectic1]

I have PHC 1st ed, 3rd ed, and the new 5th ed. They are all tremendous whiskeys and i love them. The PVW just thag little extra something in the finish that gives me spontaneous permagrin . Its like difference between "oh, that's good!" and "woe, holy shnikies that's amazing!"

The PHC 10 is the 4th bottling and it's the only wheated one of the bunch...IMO it's the best one too! :cool:

[weller_tex]

another houstonian!:grin: or :smiley_acbt: ?

you got a bunch of great responses. i agree with what the others are saying and what you've already concluded: the current BT Pappy's are not as good as the SW Pappy's. having said that, julian van winkle may not be a distiller but he sure does know how to pick the barrels! the current lot b is the "best" of the weller 12's. is it worth the price difference? to me, no. 2011's pvw 15 (i got a couple of bottles) - definitely not the same as the first pvw 15's i had. more heat, slightly shorter finish, not as "full" and slightly different taste. still great bourbon but i will not be going out of my way to get it like i had to for the past few years (i love the days when it wasn't as well known).

you are fortunate that houston is (was?) a pretty good dusty hunting ground. unfortunately, most of the SW dusties (as well as other most prized dusties) were picked clean. definitely before i started dusty hunting. i found some dusty SW juice (wellers) but pure luck. fwiw, i've had dusty SW weller (107 and WSR 90) and they are good stuff but i wouldn't pay the prices i've seen people paying on "that" internet site.

Yes GREAT responses, and I appreciate folks not getting irritated about rehashing an old subject. Guess folks don't get tired of talking about S-W. I here through some folks that the last bottle of S-W bourbon is now gone from Houston area stores.

[dohidied]

Yes GREAT responses, and I appreciate folks not getting irritated about rehashing an old subject. Guess folks don't get tired of talking about S-W. I here through some folks that the last bottle of S-W bourbon is now gone from Houston area stores.

that's the beautiful thIng about dusty hunting. Even if you visited every liquor store, you still don't know what's in the basement. Old liquor stores go out of business and their inventories get bought and moved, replenishing the dusties. Go take a look at the Dusty Finds thread in the Collectibles forum.