So, single barrel bottlings are not really?

[callmeox]

According to this guy...they don't have to be.

Who wants to buy his book?

http://www.iconicspirits.net/newsletter854308.htm

[White Dog]

He's confusing the 12 and 18. Sound research.

[IowaJeff]

Ha! Other singles, some truer than others, that might also confuse this guy:

-Single hamburgers. Take a close look at the nutritional facts. Your single with cheese may contain up to 200 different patties.

-Music singles - next time you buy a song on itunes listen closely, it could actually be the entire album. And if played in reverse may say 'Paul is Dead."

-'Singles' dating websites - Half these people are married!

-Beyonce's 'All the Single Ladies': 'All' implies more than one. 'Single' implies one (but as I have noted, often means otherwise). Very difficult to interpret, but proves my theorum that 'single' really means multiple.

-The show 'My Two Dads' - They are both single dads. If you can have 2 single dads multiple barrels can in fact be a single barrel. You've been logic'd.

[Brisko]

For some reason his website background reminds me of this one. :skep:

But yeah, sounds like he got "small batch" and "single barrel" confused. Doesn't really inspire confidence.

[Lazer]

If I was HH or Kirin, I would sue him. :smiley_acbt:

What's with his price quotes for FRSB $50??? not exactly. :skep:

[Restaurant man]

I don't mind all the mistakes in this short review, but i can't abide his effeminate writing style :hot:

[p_elliott]

Just proof that any idiot can write a book I bought another whiskey book that says that KC is from the same mashbill as Basil Hayden.

[wadewood]

just saw that 4Roses tweeted about this guy's post. I emailed them and told them to check their facts.

[ILLfarmboy]

First shot out of the box, he called bourbon barrels "casks". That's your first clue.

[callmeox]

just saw that 4Roses tweeted about this guy's post. I emailed them and told them to check their facts.

Their social media guy is just that....not one of the industry folks. He needs some bourbon learnin'.

I let them know yesterday with no response either.

[wadewood]

Their social media guy is just that....not one of the industry folks. He needs some bourbon learnin'.

I let them know yesterday with no response either.

I did get a response. 4R said they contacted author who said he confused ec 12 & ec 18 sb.

[StraightNoChaser]

I did get a response. 4R said they contacted author who said he confused ec 12 & ec 18 sb.

This is why I don't have a whiskey blog. I am confident in my whiskey knowledge but I also make mistakes.

God forbid my blog be reposted here and ridiculed for a moment of naivety :skep:

[LikeItWasSodaPop]

Oh come on, this isn't a moment of naiveté, this is a bloviating egotistical &*%$tard who doesn't know what he's talking about condemning an entire category of whiskey while getting his facts so entirely wrong he utterly disqualifies anything else he has to say. It's way worse than just confusing EC12 and EC18. He literally doesn't know what he's talking about and is aggressively condemning an entire category of American whiskey as deceptively labeled. That is irresponsible at best.

Serious bloggers wouldn't publish this sort of drivel. Even those that write while totally ^&*$faced.

[LikeItWasSodaPop]

Let's get this quoted in case he deletes the post:

"The term “single barrel” is one of the most confusing in the lexicon of spirits. Most designated Single Barrels are actually blends of liquor from different casks. Elijah Craig Single Barrel, for example, is composed of Bourbon from no more than 70 separate casks, and there are single barrel Bourbons on the market drawn from as many as 200 different barrels (most regular Bourbons, by contrast, are blends of whiskey from 500-700 barrels)."

He is claiming that "single barrel" is a "confusing" term and that "most" SB are not at all what they claim to be, individual barrel #s notwithstanding.

Maybe he knows something I don't.

But the idea that a confusion between EC 18 and 12 explains this stupidity is, well, equally stupid. And while I am open to anyone saying dumb stuff on blogs, people saying wildly inaccurate stuff -- so wildly inaccurate to show utter ignorance of the category the writer is professing to write about -- on blogs should be called out.

[smokinjoe]

^

Bravo, LIWSP. Posts 13 and 14 are spot on, IMO...

[JayMonster]

I must agree with LikeItWasSodaPop as well. In all honesty I recently made the mistake of confusing EC12 and EC18 in a thread here. But in doing so, I simply thought EC18 was a small batch Bourbon as EC12 is. That is a far cry from trying to suggest that single Barrel is actually just a smaller batch than "small batch."

He pulled that accusation out of thin air and insinuated that the entire industry was lying by using the term. And until such time as he corrects and apologizes for it, he deserves every bit of flack he gets for it.

Edited to add: This would be true for anybody who made such false accusations , but for somebody who would present themselves as an authority and publish a book on the "history" of the subject is just mind boggling.

[Josh]

I believe that bloggers should be mocked at any and every opportunity. Even if there's a good reason for it like in this case.

[trumpstylz]

Hey, come on guys. Lighten up. He made a mistake. We all do. Like yesterday, when I tried to drive my boat to the store, or sunday, when I tried to mow my lawn with a blender.

[macdeffe]

Haha, this was a funny thread. There is actually examples of single barrel/cask bottlings which can be questioned

Bitter truth Rye is one example, as the rye whiskey was revatted into fewer barrels at some point in maturation. Also I always wondered if finished single cask bottlings (I'm in Scotland now) are really true single casks, as two ex-bourbon cask can easily fit into a sherry butt

Steffen

[bgageus]

Also I always wondered if finished single cask bottlings (I'm in Scotland now) are really true single casks, as two ex-bourbon cask can easily fit into a sherry butt

Steffen

I don't know Sherry, but would sure like to meet her.

[Restaurant man]

I sent a polite email to the author pointing out an error in the post and got a response from mark@spivakonwine stating

"I spent three days at heaven hill last summer in connection with my forthcoming book. Larry Kass, their director of communications, told me that elijah craig single barrel was composed of no more than 70 different barrels. This is exactly the statement that appears in the piece"

so i politely responded that maybe he wanted to double check and he replied that i "appear be correct"

P.S. I would also like sherry's number and shoe size please

[Josh]

P.S. I would also like sherry's number and shoe size please

Don't you want to see a picture of the butt first?

[Lazer]

I sent a polite email to the author pointing out an error in the post and got a response from mark@spivakonwine stating

"I spent three days at heaven hill last summer in connection with my forthcoming book. Larry Kass, their director of communications, told me that elijah craig single barrel was composed of no more than 70 different barrels. This is exactly the statement that appears in the piece"

so i politely responded that maybe he wanted to double check and he replied that i "appear be correct"

P.S. I would also like sherry's number and shoe size please

the question is, were the 70 barrels vatted together before bottling or not?

[CorvallisCracker]

I STILL want to know what "Small Batch Single Barrel" is!

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12034001000086

As for Sherry's butt, I've seen it. It's not all it's cracked up to be.

[macdeffe]

Well, you probably wont find smaller batch sizes than single barrels :-)

Steffen