Buncha new stuff on the Michigan Liquor list!

[Josh]

A butt-load (J-lo sized) of new Heaven Hill products on the Michigan list as of June 3, 2012.

ECSB 20 y/o $130

EW White Label BiB $15

EW 1783 $17

Mellow Corn BiB $10

Evan Williams Apple Orchard (!!!) $13

Others:

Traverse City Whiskey Co. SBW $27 (86 proof)

Kilchoman Machir Bay $57

Isle of Jura Prophecy $80

Particularly excited about the EW white label and Mellow Corn. :grin:

[mosugoji64]

That's great news! I've been stretching out my supply of EW BIB due to the lack of availability and considering grabbing another MC next time we're in KY. Hopefully, they'll expand the markets elsewhere as well.

[Lazer]

that's good news. we don't get EWWight here in NYC. Maybe we will if this is an indication of wider distribution.

Another bourbon we don't get is Old Forester 86 or Signature, we only get the birthday bourbon, and I've seen the prohibition repeal aniversary bourbon on the shelf, but we don't get the regular stuff, and ... we also don't get VOB, but you might have known that already, just the 1792. If you need a $600 bottle of scotch, we have plenty of that, or handles of Hennesy for $60, 2 for $109.

[CorvallisCracker]

Particularly excited about the EW white label...

[Josh]

It's okay, but can't compare to VOB BiB. Here they're about the same price, which is why I never buy the EW.

[tmckenzie]

The ew 1783 is fine stuff as well.

[awachatz]

I just wish they would add Willetts and the Vintage bourbons to the offering in Michigan.

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[deathevocation]

Does the Michigan government control what alcohol is able to be sold in the state? I thought that sort of thing might be limited to some conservative counties in the southern part of the USA. Strange if true.

[Special Reserve]

Does the Michigan government control what alcohol is able to be sold in the state? I thought that sort of thing might be limited to some conservative counties in the southern part of the USA. Strange if true.

Michigan has been a control state for as long as I remember. >50 years .

By your statement it implies that conservatives like government controls. Not the conventional wisdom but who says that conventional wisdom is correct?

Will

[deathevocation]

Hmmm, I'd submit the degree of how far one leans to the right will determine how far one consents to government controls. In saying so, generally conservatives in Australia (not as right leaning as what I imagine they are in the USA) like alcohol controlled by big brother.

[callmeox]

Does the Michigan government control what alcohol is able to be sold in the state? I thought that sort of thing might be limited to some conservative counties in the southern part of the USA. Strange if true.

There are various levels of "control" for states without free market liquor sales. In Michigan, the state determines what can be sold and sets a minimum price but the retailers own the liquor on their shelves.

In my home state (Ohio) the state also determines what can be sold and sets a minimum price, but they own the liquor on the retailer shelves. The retailers sell on a consignment basis on behalf of the state and I believe they get between 5 and 10% of the sale price as their fee.

[soad]

Does the Michigan government control what alcohol is able to be sold in the state? I thought that sort of thing might be limited to some conservative counties in the southern part of the USA. Strange if true.

There seems to be no real connection between state wide ideology and liquor laws. Wikipedia lists the control states, and by my count the 19 are pretty much equally divided between "Red" and "Blue" States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_beverage_control_state#State_listing

[Josh]

Michigan is a "control state" but as control states go, it's not very controlling. We get a much better selection here than in many other control states. The control only really extends to liquor. Beer and wine are pretty much left alone.

Anyway, I also forgot to mention that, inexplicably to me, Old Overholt is coming to Michigan too. We already have Beam rye.

[p_elliott]

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Anyway' date=' I also forgot to mention that, inexplicably to me, Old Overholt is coming to Michigan too. We already have Beam rye.

Lucky you Now all you need is Ri(1) to finish out the gag bag. :slappin:

[Josh]

Lucky you Now all you need is Ri(1) to finish out the gag bag. :slappin:

[Peter_Pogue]

We have been asked to distribute in Michigan several times over the last few years. The problem is not so much of state approval or retail distribution. The problem is the state markup is 60% BEFORE the retailer adds their markup. This makes the shelf price extremely expensive.

[The Boozer]

Sorry Peter, but comparing prices from Party Source and Binny's does not show a significant difference across the board. Also, have checked with prices from Fla. and Washington DC and again not significant spreads. Yes, some products are higher and some lower and in general, the product in Kentucky is generally cheaper. But look at prices from Binny's and Chicago tends to be modestly higher than the Michigan.

[Josh]

It's also worth noting that a retailer profit is built into the minimum price.

For example: The minimum price for a 750 ml bottle of Evan Williams Black for the consumer is $12.99 +sales tax. The price the retailer pays is (if I'm reading the chart right) $11.05 per bottle. So even when selling at state minimum, a retailer is going to be making about $2 off each bottle.

[awachatz]

Personally, I would pay the higher price. I just want a larger selection, specifically the quality bourbons that aren't currently available in Michigan.

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[The Boozer]

Personally, I would pay the higher price. I just want a larger selection, specifically the quality bourbons that aren't currently available in Michigan.

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The grass is not always greener on the other side. You could be living in Ohio, Penn or any other control State with a much smaller selection than this state. We don't have it too bad, could be worse. Also, Kentucky is only as short 5 hour drive, need to make a road trip and stock up. Another option is to find yourself a good mule.

[Flyfish]

The ew 1783 is fine stuff as well.

As a recent convert to EW 1783 as a value pour, I have found that "value" varies considerably. In KY, it is $12, in VA it's $14, and in GA, $17. On a percentage basis, that's a huge spread. Availability in MI is a good thing but at $17, I won't be making any special trips to MI. Even from Toledo, that sits right smack on the border.

[Josh]

Some more exciting (and some not so exciting) new stuff on the new price book and supplemental list.

John B. Stetson $29

Lexington $28

New Holland Beer Barrel Bourbon $30 (750 ml)

New PHC $90

WRMC 4 Wood $100

Everclear Lightnin' Corn Whiskey $20

Hudson NY Corn Whiskey $50 (!!!)

Bowman Brothers Small Batch $30 (woot!)

Col. Taylor Single Barrel $60

Col. Taylor Rye $70

Selected Dark Siders

Caol Ila 14 y/o (59% ABV) $110

Oban 18 y/o $160

Talisker 18 $136

Middleton Barry Crockett Legacy $300

Port Ellen 32 y/o $950

[Josh]

The Hudson NY Corn is $50 for a full 750 ml bottle, btw.

[OscarV]

John B. Stetson $29

Lexington $28

[Josh]

Mat says he was told that the Stetson is distilled by Heaven Hill.

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?17162-John-B-Stetson-Bourbon&highlight=stetson

I know zero about the Lexington.

But you know, it's none of my business.:cool: