In search of Pappy 15

[tommyboy38]

Everytime I see BMH 16, I wonder why in the hell a 16 year old cost $150.

I guess their marketing strategy must be "There's a sucker born every minute!"

[Restaurant man]

Guy's just keep looking because it is still out there. With in the last 30 days been able to buy the following just going in a few stores each day.

1 AH Hirsch 16 Gold Foil (3rd one in last six months)

3 George T Stagg

6 William LaRue Weller

1 Pappy 23

1 Pappy 20

1 Pappy 15

2 Pappy 12

1 ORVW 90

4 Black Maple Hill 23 Rye

9 Black Maple Hill 16 Bourbon

2 Parkers Heritage Collection 3rd Release

4 Sazerac 18

So I can infer that you are single. No married man would be allowed in the house with that much whiskey. :slappin:

[yountvillewjs]

Do we know his eBay handle?

[Kalessin]

Everytime I see BMH 16, I wonder why in the hell a 16 year old cost $150.

I guess their marketing strategy must be "There's a sucker born every minute!"

That or "The scotch guys can get $150/750ml for a 16-year-old, so we can too!"

[mosugoji64]

So I can infer that you are single. No married man would be allowed in the house with that much whiskey. :slappin:

[unclebunk]

Everytime I see BMH 16, I wonder why in the hell a 16 year old cost $150.

I guess their marketing strategy must be "There's a sucker born every minute!"

[sob0728]

That or "The scotch guys can get $150/750ml for a 16-year-old, so we can too!"

I know we all like to say scotch is overpriced, but there is damn good scotch out there at bourbon prices (Aberlour 16 for $50, Balvenie 12 for $33), and as you mention here there is bourbon at scotch prices. I do not think the price differential is what is once was. In fact, there are basically zero reasonably priced bourbons that are over 20 years and there are plenty of 21 year-old scotches you can get for under $120 (Glenlivet, Old Pulteney, Lismore, Glenfarclas, Tomatin 25).

[Kalessin]

I know we all like to say scotch is overpriced, but there is damn good scotch out there at bourbon prices (Aberlour 16 for $50, Balvenie 12 for $33), and as you mention here there is bourbon at scotch prices. I do not think the price differential is what is once was. In fact, there are basically zero reasonably priced bourbons that are over 20 years and there are plenty of 21 year-old scotches you can get for under $120 (Glenlivet, Old Pulteney, Lismore, Glenfarclas, Tomatin 25).

The background to my comment is that Scottish distillers have been very careful with their aging programs, single-malt releases, and selling other product into blends. They've got great control of their market and pricing these days. There are hundreds of different single-malt scotch brands and expressions, and the more the merrier as the collectors keep buying the unusual new releases (and paying more because they're new and unusual).

This is a business model that I think the large American distillers are trying to emulate, which brings us wonderful unusual bourbon, but at prices which are rapidly climbing into scotch territory (as opposed to efforts in the mid-20th century to import scotch whiskey to the US and bring it down to bourbon prices).

[ebo]

At the rate the prices are going up on whisk(e)y across the board, it won't be long before the hobby is only a rich man's folly.

I've already had to cut way down on my purchases. As much as I love whisk(e)y, I just can't justify the cost of the hobby these days.

[T Comp]

I know we all like to say scotch is overpriced, but there is damn good scotch out there at bourbon prices (Aberlour 16 for $50, Balvenie 12 for $33), and as you mention here there is bourbon at scotch prices. I do not think the price differential is what is once was. In fact, there are basically zero reasonably priced bourbons that are over 20 years and there are plenty of 21 year-old scotches you can get for under $120 (Glenlivet, Old Pulteney, Lismore, Glenfarclas, Tomatin 25).

You make a good point SOB. Below $25 bourbon still has scotch beat with the likes of OWA, OGD 114 and the surviving BIBs. And scotch still totally dominates as overpriced on the high end, as John Hansell recently sets out in writing about the Dalmore Constellation Collection. But in the great middle it's matching up very similar. The reality of bourbon ageing versus scotch may always limit the more moderate high end ($200 to $1,000) for bourbon that scotch has too.

[Trey Manthey]

Guy's just keep looking because it is still out there. With in the last 30 days been able to buy the following just going in a few stores each day.

1 AH Hirsch 16 Gold Foil (3rd one in last six months)

3 George T Stagg

6 William LaRue Weller

1 Pappy 23

1 Pappy 20

1 Pappy 15

2 Pappy 12

1 ORVW 90

4 Black Maple Hill 23 Rye

9 Black Maple Hill 16 Bourbon

2 Parkers Heritage Collection 3rd Release

4 Sazerac 18

Does this list represent an average month's whiskey budget? :bigeyes:

[unclebunk]

Does this list represent an average month's whiskey budget? :bigeyes:

Yes...for a bank robber!

[MarkEdwards]

Quote:

Originally Posted by rebelfred

Guy's just keep looking because it is still out there. With in the last 30 days been able to buy the following just going in a few stores each day.

1 AH Hirsch 16 Gold Foil (3rd one in last six months)

3 George T Stagg

6 William LaRue Weller

1 Pappy 23

1 Pappy 20

1 Pappy 15

2 Pappy 12

1 ORVW 90

4 Black Maple Hill 23 Rye

9 Black Maple Hill 16 Bourbon

2 Parkers Heritage Collection 3rd Release

4 Sazerac 18

Does this list represent an average month's whiskey budget? :bigeyes:

I'm betting it's a DAILY budget. :cool:

[sutton]

I'm betting it's a DAILY budget. :cool:

Profitability when flipping on eBay is all about inventory turn.

[Restaurant man]

Do we know his eBay handle?

No but I'm betting rebelfred is from Germantown Tennessee. :grin:

[ThomasH]

I agree.

I asked at the store today about the BTAC.... do they ever get any, or can they get any. I was told I was they are asked almost daily about it, and they just don't want bothered with it. Again.... Ohio sucks for whisk(e)y

If you go to Fishers on Fulton and ask, they do get BTAC if availabe. I have seen 2 different years of Stag and one of Sazerac Rye!

[Bmac]

So.....he joined just to tell us to keep looking? Then name dropped.a.bunch of popular whiskey? I would like to know what state has so much available to it.

[LostBottle]

Guy's just keep looking because it is still out there. With in the last 30 days been able to buy the following just going in a few stores each day.

1 AH Hirsch 16 Gold Foil (3rd one in last six months)

3 George T Stagg

6 William LaRue Weller

1 Pappy 23

1 Pappy 20

1 Pappy 15

2 Pappy 12

1 ORVW 90

4 Black Maple Hill 23 Rye

9 Black Maple Hill 16 Bourbon

2 Parkers Heritage Collection 3rd Release

4 Sazerac 18

Thank you for sharing the tip. All too often we see people not offering any useful tips and simply bragging about the bottles that will be sold on eBay.

Since you have amassed a good collection, I am curious to know what your top 3 are. Would you post your tasting notes with fellow enthusiasts for the benefit of the community? Also, since you are new to the comminity, a good place to post is the bar thread where you can show off photos of your open bottles - it is a lot of fun and it would be a thrill to see how that stash is being enjoyed.

[BarrelChar]

Thank you for sharing the tip. All too often we see people not offering any useful tips and simply bragging about the bottles that will be sold on eBay.

Since you have amassed a good collection, I am curious to know what your top 3 are. Would you post your tasting notes with fellow enthusiasts for the benefit of the community? Also, since you are new to the comminity, a good place to post is the bar thread where you can show off photos of your open bottles - it is a lot of fun and it would be a thrill to see how that stash is being enjoyed.

Ha, his stash is the survivors that didn't meet his obscene reserve prices, like that PHC 3rd Ed at $232.50 and the Black Maple Hill 16 for $227.50. The luckier bottles escaped his clutches, perhaps to be orphaned to more loving homes.

Clearly, if he can't skim a sufficient profit off the bottle, he holds onto it and keeps re-listing. Then he posts here and hopes to get PM offers. If nothing else, he's a tenacious rent-seeker.

I think if we ever get a picture of his bunker, it'll be a shelf of all those Eagle Rare 17s that he can't flip and that giant handle of OC 12 with the BIN price of $125.