Van Winkle Family Reserve Red Wax Export

[callmeox]

OK, who is going to reach out to Julian to explain?

[smokinjoe]

Ouch...

Cancellations to GBS are running at 98%. BTW, thanks for hangin' in there with me O...

Wife has filed for divorce...

Dog bit me...

Demoted at work...

Chuck's GBS Project is now simply The Project...

My reservation at the General Nelson in September has mysteriously "disappeared"...wait....that happens all the time anyway...

Elmer T, and Jimmy Russell have called to tell me that they will kick my ass if I ever set foot in Kentucky again.

My nomination to become a Kentucky Colonel has been shredded, and returned to me...

I woke up in my hotel this morning with a horses head next to me...

One bright spot, though...apparently, I've been fast-tracked for membership into the Georgia Infused-Vodka Society...thanks Jimmy!!!

[doubleblank]

Sorry for being late to the discussion. As Julian already posted, it's from the Boone Distillery bottled for the Japanese market. I acquired my bottle from Julian's collection via the Getz Museum Charity Auction.

A more interesting note which begs for a side-by-side tasting........this is the same whiskey he put in his original Pappy 20yo, simply done a few years earlier. So if you have an original Pappy 20yo green glass bottle, open them up and do a comparison. It's what I intend to do when I open it.

Julian also did some red wax tendril bottlings in the early '80's. Probably before MM started protecting their trade dress.

Randy

[doubleblank]

That's interesting info on that red waxed bottle, Julian. I have a similar one, and I also have a different Van Winkle 17 year old, picture is attached. I've often wondered if there's any connection to the similarly labeled initial A. H. Hirsch 15 year olds. The two in this picture on the left bear similar labels, yet have different bottling dates, one being in September and the other February, both distilled in 1974. The Van Winkle 17 doesn't list dates, merely "Lot H." All have the same proof (95.6) and state Lawrenceburg, as you'll see on the labels.

Any info on any of these, the Van Winkle or the Hirsch's is appreciated!

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Those Hirsch bottlings are some of the many iterations Julian did while bottling the whiskey from the Michters Distillery. I have seen approximately 10 different labels Julian used to bottle the Michters ranging from 15 to 20 year old representations. The "blue wax" and "gold wax" versions of the Hirsch 16yo are probably the most common (relatively) AND highly collectible ones seen. The "gold foil" topped bottles are still available at retail, but not considered in the same league as earlier releases.

I don't recall what might be inside the Lot H 17yo bottle.

Randy

[B1bomber]

Thanks for chiming in, Randy. Appreciate you shedding some light on this. Here's a better family portrait. Would be great to know if they shared common juice, or just coincidental labels (and locations, proofs, etc). The conspiracy theorist in me has to wonder if "Lot H" doesn't refer to "Hirsch." Crazy notion, I'm sure.

As for Julian, I gotta say, I didn't immediately read that as sarcasm myself. I ultimately concluded it must be, and hope he does as well. Would be great to get his thoughts on these. Julian?

Thanks again, Randy.

Edited June 28, 2012 by B1bomber

[passthebourbon]

So if you have an original Pappy 20yo green glass bottle, open them up and do a comparison. It's what I intend to do when I open it.

Randy

Thanks for weighing in Randy.

I've read a few different posts on the green glass Pappy's, however there are none occupying my bunker. I also don't recall ever seeing any. If you have time, would you mind snapping a pic and showing us what some of the green glass Pappy's look like?

All other green glass, or any other one off's like what B1 included are more than welcome.

Cheers,

Pete

[p_elliott]

OK, who is going to reach out to Julian to explain?

I did I sent a PM I didn't tell him a screwball Joe was I just couldn't put that into words. Just Kidding I know what Joe meant by that post and I told Julian that.

[doubleblank]

The green glass Pappy's look just like the regular Pappy's.....except when you hold the bottles besides each other up to a light. You'll then see the slightly green tint in the bottle's glass. Can't mis it.

Julian would, on occasion, put together a batch of whiskey to be bottled and then start bottling the stuff but using different labels depending on what his market wanted. For example, he would begin bottling his VWFR Rye 13yo and then switch over to doing his ORVW 12yo Old Time Rye from the same stuff. Some markets wanted the rustic look of the squat bottle and "aged" label versus the cognac shaped bottle.

Knowing this and from looking at B1's bottles ..... I'd say there is a good chance it's all from the Michters whiskey he had.

[jvanwinkle]

Oh I get it now! Sarcasm.

I must be a bit paranoid with all these idiots on the net these days. Everything is cool.

[smokinjoe]

Great. Glad to hear that you know there was nothing directed at you in my post. Not sarcasm actually, but more like lampooning the conspiracists among us. But, I should polish up my smilie skills.

And, hopefully the distributor was just misinformed when he told me that the Georgia allocation of the Fall Release of Pappys was very recently cancelled due to some..."misunderstanding"...

[jvanwinkle]

Yep, we'll be shipping GA in October just like everybody else.