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Sad day in Iowa no more FRSB


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This weekend I was buying some bourbon at the local liquor store. This purchase included a bottle of FRSB. The teller told me that she thought the owner had told her that she wasn't going to be able to get that any more. I asked why and she said the state was not going to sell it any more. When I got home I emailed someone at the state liquor controllers office and asked about it. This morning I got a reply back this is what I got.

Paul,

Four Roses recently was delisted effective August 1st. This product was simply not doing enough in sales and did not meet the criteria to remain listed. This product is still available through special order, it will just not be a permanent listing in the state of Iowa.

Please let me know if you have any further questions.

Thank you,

Nicole Scebold

Special order if I'm not mistaken means you have to buy a case.I don't think the state of Iowa gave this product enough time to get a following. It had already picked up one in this town and I was the only one that knew what it was a year ago.

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That's a serious bummer. What is the listed price for it in Iowa? It just may be worth getting a case now or perhaps a few bottles to bunker until you make your next trip across the border to Illinois.

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Special order if I'm not mistaken means you have to buy a case.

As lousy as that is, there are worse things in life than being burdened with a case of FRSB:cool:

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The state listed it at $29.99. Prior to being listed, only a couple of stores carried it and it was $45-50. After it got listed the prices dropped to $35-40 and you could get it about anywhere. I guess Van Gogh Peanut Butter the Jelly flavored vodka makes the cut, but 4 Roses bourbon doesn't. Boo Iowa ABD.

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Paul is right; they didn't give it enough time. They also did it a disservice by not listing 4 Roses Yellow or small batch. Jumping straight to the 'premium' in a new market without the more moderately priced options available is setting it up for failure. Bourbon drinkers that aren't famililar with the product are going to be more apt to try a bottle of 4R Yellow, like it (which they almost surely will), and then step up to the SB if its in their price range.

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The people that run the Iowa liquor control must all be drunks because every thing on the selves is bottom self or low middle shelf. They wouldn't know a decent liquor if it bit them in the ass.

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The people that run the Iowa liquor control must all be drunks because every thing on the selves is bottom self or low middle shelf. They wouldn't know a decent liquor if it bit them in the ass.

Well, we are talking about Iowa here.... :grin:

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This makes me very sad. It's already hard enough to get any variety here, now they have to take away one of the good bottles.

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The people that run the Iowa liquor control must all be drunks because every thing on the selves is bottom self or low middle shelf. They wouldn't know a decent liquor if it bit them in the ass.

It sounds like they're morons who are only looking at revenue dollars - like it costs them a bunch of money to offer more bottles on the shelves. If they were really interested in what was best for the market, they'd get out of being so actively involved IN the market :)

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Welcome to the wonderful world of state controlled liquor stores. They all suck.

Joe :usflag:

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Welcome to the wonderful world of state controlled liquor stores. They all suck.

Joe :usflag:

I can attest to that.

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Ohio is actually not too bad. Sometimes you just have to request what you want. They have plenty of FRSB here, as well as single barrel and yellow label too!

Thomas

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I've heard very similar head-scratching stories about the state from some of the owners/operators of the larger liquor stores in Iowa. If it's not fruity or sweet, forget about it.

Cyclone still had a pretty good supply the last time I was in there. If any fellow Iowans need a bottle, PM me and I can pick one up for you the next time I make a stop.

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Maybe if Paul had purchased less WT81, and more FRSB... :lol:

In all seriousness, that is a damn shame.

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Ohio is actually not too bad. Sometimes you just have to request what you want. They have plenty of FRSB here, as well as single barrel and yellow label too!

Thomas

Forget about getting any BTAC or any van winkles in Ohio

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Forget about getting any BTAC or any van winkles in Ohio

I'm not trying to get anything like that I'm just trying to get an upper shelf bourbon for crying out loud!

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  • 1 year later...

Congrats!! Baby-steps to sanity :) One day . . . one day these goofy states will get the hell out of the way. Right? That will happen . . . right?

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I think that Paul may still have at least a bottle or two left over from the case(s) he bought in KY at the KBF. :rolleyes: But, I've been wrong before. :slappin:

I have one bottle left it was signed by Jim I'm keeping that one. I no longer have to order a case in Iowa it is now a standard release and my local store is going to carry it.

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