Hypothetical PVW 23 trade

[savagehenry]

Well, I did not get what I wanted today so I'm holding the bottle for now.

The first spot did not come close. At the 2nd spot I was surprised to see a PVW 23 on their shelf.....for $900!!!! Didn't even bother talking trade, but perhaps I can try and sell it to them closer to Xmas.

I'm thinking I may just hold it, or say f#$k it and make it part of my wheater flight at my Xmas party tasting event. It's a 2004 bottling.

Cheers!

[yountvillewjs]

Not much of a scotch drinker but if someone wants to trade me a Macallan 25 for a PVW23 -- I'd do it!

[unclebunk]

Lots of good suggestions re: trade value, etc. But the more important issue is this: What kind of jackass would even think of paying $360 for a bottle of VWFRR? That's insane! Me, I'd go with Josh's suggestion of a few cases of VOB and maybe even throw in a hooker. Now that would be a good deal for a bottle of PVW23!

[LostBottle]

At the 2nd spot I was surprised to see a PVW 23 on their shelf.....for $900!!!!

Please email the name of that place to the Van Winkles, they are trying to crack down on this. In fact, I encourage you to post the name of the place so we can bombard it with negative Yelp reviews about their price gouging.

[savagehenry]

Please email the name of that place to the Van Winkles, they are trying to crack down on this. In fact, I encourage you to post the name of the place so we can bombard it with negative Yelp reviews about their price gouging.

I already sent them a Facebook message.

He had the bottle behind the counter, so I could not make out the tag. When I asked how much it was, he said with a smile "It's not for sale." Then said "it's priced at $900, but if you have cash we can work a better deal." He then proceeded to tell me he had a friend at another San Diego area store with it priced at $1300, explaining that his friend does not care if he sells it, juts that it looks good on our shelves.

[fishnbowljoe]

Not trying tp spoil the party, but I seem to remember reading or hearing somewhere, that it is illegal for a liquor store to acquire alcohol from anyone or anyplace other than a distributor or a wholesaler. Has anyone else heard if this is true or not?

[Josh]

Well, I did not get what I wanted today so I'm holding the bottle for now.

The first spot did not come close. At the 2nd spot I was surprised to see a PVW 23 on their shelf.....for $900!!!! Didn't even bother talking trade, but perhaps I can try and sell it to them closer to Xmas.

I'm thinking I may just hold it, or say f#$k it and make it part of my wheater flight at my Xmas party tasting event. It's a 2004 bottling.

Cheers!

I thought this was all hypothetical.

[Ejmharris]

Not trying tp spoil the party, but I seem to remember reading or hearing somewhere, that it is illegal for a liquor store to acquire alcohol from anyone or anyplace other than a distributor or a wholesaler. Has anyone else heard if this is true or not?

It is also illegal to smoke pot in California. Uhhhh, unless you have a "prescription."

[jburlowski]

PVW 23?

I offer the following:

Edited November 30, 2012 by jburlowski

[savagehenry]

I thought this was all hypothetical.

Well, it was hypothetical for everyone but me.

[Rockefeller]

Not trying tp spoil the party, but I seem to remember reading or hearing somewhere, that it is illegal for a liquor store to acquire alcohol from anyone or anyplace other than a distributor or a wholesaler. Has anyone else heard if this is true or not?

I believe this is true. It is also illegal for a liquor store to accept returns of a bottle that has left the store. Why? Well some crackpot out there could refill an empty bottle with something else and reseal it. Would you want to buy a bottle of liquor (or any food product frankly) that was a return item?

[smokinjoe]

I believe this is true. It is also illegal for a liquor store to accept returns of a bottle that has left the store. Why? Well some crackpot out there could refill an empty bottle with something else and reseal it. Would you want to buy a bottle of liquor (or any food product frankly) that was a return item?

Can't a crackpot screw up anything? So, I don't know why this would be the reason for not accepting returns of liquor.

[tommyboy38]

I think I'm putting all my PVW in the trunk and driving out to California.

[WAINWRIGHT]

I think I'm putting all my PVW in the trunk and driving out to California.

Pick me up it's on the way,we can split the gas.

[soonami]

Not trying tp spoil the party, but I seem to remember reading or hearing somewhere, that it is illegal for a liquor store to acquire alcohol from anyone or anyplace other than a distributor or a wholesaler. Has anyone else heard if this is true or not?

100% true. Commercial retailers must buy from a distributor and only distributors that have registered in their state. If owned a liquor store in NJ, I couldn't bypass my state's distributor of VW and place an order with the cheaper NY distributor.

I believe this is true. It is also illegal for a liquor store to accept returns of a bottle that has left the store. Why? Well some crackpot out there could refill an empty bottle with something else and reseal it. Would you want to buy a bottle of liquor (or any food product frankly) that was a return item?

Definitely a local law, if true. In PA and in fact many stores in DE and NJ, will accept for returns any unopened bottles of alcohol.

[T Comp]

100% true. Commercial retailers must buy from a distributor and only distributors that have registered in their state. If owned a liquor store in NJ, I couldn't bypass my state's distributor of VW and place an order with the cheaper NY distributor.

Definitely a local law, if true. In PA and in fact many stores in DE and NJ, will accept for returns any unopened bottles of alcohol.

Right...also in Illinois you can return unopened bottles of alcohol from the store you bought, if that is the store's policy. I know that Binny's allows this but expect other stores here may not. And of course the first part that soonami states is absolutely true based on three tier. Though back in the day, I came across a few independent store operators that were willing to sell me items they certainly didn't acquire from a distributor and more like somebody's basement. Of course I turned them down :grin:.

[tanstaafl2]

PVW 23?

I offer the following:

[Kalessin]

In Massachusetts, most liquor stores will accept returns of unopened bottles, within reason. Most bottles these days have a decent tamper-proof seal.

I'm sure they can refuse a return (bringing back that bottle of 25-year-old scotch because the wife didn't approve probably won't work unless you have a long and well-established relationship with the store).

Catering and party hosting depends on buying extra bottles for back-up and returning them, though this usually involves commodity type stock (bottom- and mid-shelf bottles). Stores I've used for this won't take back wine or beer if chilled.

I'm also sure that even with three-tier system, stock has occasionally appeared in stores that didn't come through the official distribution channel.

[bigtoys]

ridiculous

just picked up a FRR for $70 & a 23 for $270--the way it should be

yeah, I'm bragging

[BourbonRob]

That's what I was thinking...trade for the 5 JPS' and re-trade. That way you're still getting SW, but more of it

[matthewdc]

Wanted to piggyback this thread if possible. another hypothetical--how about trading a Lot B for a 4R SmB LE 2012? worth a try?

[Tico]

Wanted to piggyback this thread if possible. another hypothetical--how about trading a Lot B for a 4R SmB LE 2012? worth a try?

I'd make that trade all day long

Lot B is $50 around here, 4R SmB LE is $80ish

[Yeti]

I'd make that trade in a heartbeat. The LE2012 is going to be "the one that got away" for me this year. Just can't seem to find one anywhere.

[RVTsteve]

*resisting urge to flame...giving benefit of...the doubt...sigh*

with a store? I mean, that's what this thread is about, so I'm assuming you've read through the thread, as well as the rules of the forum.

if they're comparably priced at the store, which they aren't by me and really should not be, and you have a good relationship with the owner, I guess hypothetically, yes?

but, no.

[savagehenry]

Hell yes. Lot B is released every 6 months. 4R LE only once - ever.