Hypothetical PVW 23 trade

[RVTsteve]

Hell yes. Lot B is released every 6 months. 4R LE only once - ever.

Well, it will only be released once next year since VW announced the move to only one release a year. still, point taken.

just not sure why a store would go for it unless they are price gouging the VW in which case they're probably gouging FR too, or they will next year.

[Josh]

Well, it will only be released once next year since VW announced the move to only one release a year. still, point taken.

just not sure why a store would go for it unless they are price gouging the VW in which case they're probably gouging FR too, or they will next year.

It's very possible to have a high price over MSRP on VW and not on 4R Ltd Eds. Four Roses doesn't have near the poseur appeal of VW, and even if some are starting to catch on, it won't be close for several years.

[RVTsteve]

Yeah, I've heard of some pricing on Lot B right along with FR LE's, or even more. unfortunately.

I'm sure you're right about the FR LE's but considering the hype over this year's I certainly wouldn't count on it getting any easier to acquire. But really, FR and VW are totally different machines with VW as the cool looking runaway train built by someone else and FR as...something strong and controlled and building speed gradually built by FR... or something :skep:

Personally, like many here, I'd let everyone else go crazy over VW while I quietly stock up on the FR releases.

[Phil T]

It's very possible to have a high price over MSRP on VW and not on 4R Ltd Eds. Four Roses doesn't have near the poseur appeal of VW, and even if some are starting to catch on, it won't be close for several years.

It may be closer then you think Josh. In pass years I've had no problem finding the LE's . But this year I've struggled to find one of each.

I've already stopped chasing VW and BTAC because of improbability. Now it looks to me, its happening with FR's.

[MyOldKyDram]

You can still walk into most any store around here and find the 2012 SmB LE. Most of the past years can be had, too. I'm with Josh in thinking that a comparable 4R boom may be years away, if ever in coming. Although every little bit of extra positive press they do receive makes me cringe just a little more in anticipation of it.

[yountvillewjs]

It may be closer then you think Josh. In pass years I've had no problem finding the LE's . But this year I've struggled to find one of each.

I'd like to see where/how these are distributed. Meaning do all regions get a relatively equal share?

[Brisko]

I propose a moratorium on discussing the bourbons currently being made in Lawrenceburg, KY, with the exception perhaps of the yellow label. They already got plenty of exposure on Hansell's blog, and we've probably fanned the flames enough here as it is. I'd hate to see that brand go the way of the Van Winkle's. Let the lurkers and flippers lust for VW and BTAC. Let's keep our own future rosy, so to to speak.

Deal? Maybe we could have a code word of some sort.

[Trey Manthey]

I propose a moratorium on discussing the bourbons currently being made in Lawrenceburg, KY, with the exception perhaps of the yellow label. They already got plenty of exposure on Hansell's blog, and we've probably fanned the flames enough here as it is. I'd hate to see that brand go the way of the Van Winkle's. Let the lurkers and flippers lust for VW and BTAC. Let's keep our own future rosy, so to to speak.

Deal? Maybe we could have a code word of some sort.

Great idea. We should only discuss terrible whiskey so that we throw off the trail of other people that are interested in whiskey. I can't wait.

[Brisko]

Great idea. We should only discuss terrible whiskey so that we throw off the trail of other people that are interested in whiskey. I can't wait.

It'll be fascinating.

Never mind, my early morning paranoia is kicking in... a side effect of whiskirexia nervosa ​I guess.

[matthewdc]

Wanted to piggyback this thread if possible. another hypothetical--how about trading a Lot B for a 4R SmB LE 2012? worth a try?

Edited December 15, 2012 by matthewdc

[savagehenry]

Quick update. Trade work! Traded straight up. I would like to thank the VW hype for making this possible...

That's awesome. From now on I'm hunting Lot B at retail for trade bait! Call it Lot Chum.

[RVTsteve]

Quick update. Trade worked! Traded straight up. I would like to thank the VW hype for making this possible...

:bigeyes: holy cow. um, congrats I guess. incredible

I saw a Lot B today with $79.98 price tag...

[matthewdc]

:bigeyes: holy cow. um, congrats I guess. incredible

I saw a Lot B today with $79.98 price tag...

Shoot, here in DC, I've seen it go for $125 up to $175! However, VA ABCs sell it for bascially retail at $53, if you can find it, which I did.

[RVTsteve]

so bonkers!!! I got one for retail too, luckily. good job on the trade

[Trey Manthey]

I traded a PVW20 for a AHH gold foil last week. The inspiration came from this thread.

[tommyboy38]

Good trade. Wish I could have made that trade. No Hirsch bourbon and extra Pappy in the bunker.

[jsVA]

Shoot, here in DC, I've seen it go for $125 up to $175! However, VA ABCs sell it for bascially retail at $53, if you can find it, which I did.

How did you get a lot b in a va abc store? From what I heard - from the lady at va abc who handles the special orders, distribution etc, va got approx 708 bottles this release, and it is all 20yr.

[yountvillewjs]

great trade, one I would make every single day.

[matthewdc]

How did you get a lot b in a va abc store? From what I heard - from the lady at va abc who handles the special orders, distribution etc, va got approx 708 bottles this release, and it is all 20yr.

It looks like some stores got a 3 bottle allotment of Lot B--I've actually seen it on the shelf in two stores. if you are in the arlington area call the Shirley Park Shopping Center on s. glebe-as of noon, they had two bottles left and even two bottles of GTS too!