MauiSon Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) Weekend Wondering: Wouldn't it be fun to have a bottle from the last barrel of each year? I wonder if anyone at the plant had that idea? [Total Geekdom] Edited February 10, 2013 by MauiSon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portwood Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Weekend Wondering: Wouldn't it be fun to have a bottle from the last barrel of each year? I wonder if anyone at the plant had that idea? [Total Geekdom]If the distillery were to keep any, I would think the 1st bottle from the 1st barrel of each year would be the most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 The press samples are always from the first barrel, which makes sense because they are sent out a couple of months before the actual release. They usually have an event when the new vintage is unveiled and draw directly from barrel number 1, which is ceremonially opened. This little exercise we're doing here is as close as I've ever gotten to determing the last barrel. I remember when the 1997 came out, we were looking for barrels dumped after the date of the fire. They probably don't want to announce the number of the last barrel because, as I said, that's the equivalent of reporting sales, which as a private company they don't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I'll take any old barrel they choose to draw from, just wish I was on the invite list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelfred Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I am looking for 1987, 1989, and 1991 bottles of EWSB, if anyone who collects these can help. I have other years if someone is looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Don't feel too bad. I haven't been invited to one in many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockefeller Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Barrel #1 of the 2003 Vintage was just named the number two whiskey of the Spring by JHansellShould I buy a case before it becomes more expensive or gets watered down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Barrel #1 of the 2003 Vintage was just named the number two whiskey of the Spring by JHansellShould I buy a case before it becomes more expensive or gets watered down? Edited February 11, 2013 by tanstaafl2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 When in doubt buy a case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauiSon Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Okay, on another forum I saw mention of barrel #1049 bottled 11/21/12. I think that ranks as the highest mention yet. That's 1 week before Chuck's 2003 barrel #1. I would assume there is no overlap between 'vintage years'. SFS, why would you assume 140pf for the dumped barrels? That's a rather high dump proof, considering that barrel entry must be no greater than 125pf. Edited February 23, 2013 by MauiSon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 They tend to make the EWSBV picks from high floors and the dump proof can be really high, even higher than 140, but I picked that (arbitrarily) as typical. Dump proofs being higher, even much higher, than barrel entry proof is pretty typical in Kentucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFS Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 SFS, why would you assume 140pf for the dumped barrels? That's a rather high dump proof, considering that barrel entry must be no greater than 125pf. I was just running the numbers, with the constants supplied by Chuck. Note that he also chose (arbitrarily?) a final proof of 86.6, and I ran the numbers again at a final proof of 84, after Squire asked. I can't remember what it is actually bottled at, and the bottles have hit the recycling already, for both my 2001 and 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauiSon Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Well, Stagg releases seem to average about 140pf, but that's with 50% more aging. Handy's releases seem to average about 130pf with 20% less aging. I would think 130pf would be a closer average, but that's with rather limited information on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shell Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 But the math looks like this.40 gallons = 151.4 Liters1 Liter of 140 proof bourbon + 0.6166 L water = 1.616 L of 86.6 proof bourbon (this is actually not quite correct, with respect to volume, because 100 mL of water + 100 mL of pure ethanol will not yield 200 mL of liquid, regardless of the proof of that liquid, but that is another topic. For the sake of estimation, I'll not worry about that factor.)997 barrels X 151.4 liters = 150,945.8 L of 140 proof.Each of those 150,946 L needs 0.6166 L water, so that's another 93,073 L.150,946 + 93,073 = 244,019 L which would make 325,358 bottles (of 750 mL each). At $23 each, that's $7,483,249.Note: Beginning at the line that starts with "Each of", I rounded to whole units.Remember that "...At $23 each, that's $7,483,249...." means gross retail sales (and not the amount Heaven Hill receives). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I believe it comes down to the profile the blenders choose for a specific brand and if the barrels that meet that profile come from the higher floors of the warehouse the proof will be greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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