Do you ever wish bourbon did not contain ethanol?

[squire]

Alcohol also has an educational effect like teaching me to write down the number for the cab company instead of trying to remember it.

Edited March 26, 2013 by squire

[TheNovaMan]

Maybe we wish we could drink more without getting too drunk...

Could this be the gist of the whole thread?

[awachatz]

Ethanol = good

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[mark fleetwood]

I know that may be a strange thought. But I don't drink for effect, I drink for the taste of the spirit. I've had three smallish pours tonite, and will not (cannot?) have another, due to the cumulative effects of the alcohol. If there was no ethanol involved, I could have another pour.

Does anyone else entertain this notion, or am I the odd man out?

[squire]

Yes it does change but that's not necessarily a negative thing. Bourbon is a strong, distinctive flavor that stretches well.

[portwood]

Lack of alcohol would be a deal breaker. It would kind of be like dating a beer belly because he has a good personality, it might be a valid reason, but not nearly compelling enough.

Fixed it for ya.

[RWBadley]

Alcohol also has an educational effect like teaching me to write down the number for the cab company instead of trying to remember it.

[mosugoji64]

Someone mentioned taking a magic pill to eliminate the effects. Well, there is such a pill: naltrexone hydrochloride. It's an opioid antagonist used to treat recovering alcoholics by blocking the euphoric effects of alcohol. I've thought for some time that it would be interesting to pop one of these before a night of drinking to determine if I would still enjoy the drinks. Anyone in good with a pharmacist? I'll volunteer to be the guinea pig. Then we could put this debate to rest. :grin:

[HighInTheMtns]

Someone mentioned taking a magic pill to eliminate the effects. Well, there is such a pill: naltrexone hydrochloride. It's an opioid antagonist used to treat recovering alcoholics by blocking the euphoric effects of alcohol. I've thought for some time that it would be interesting to pop one of these before a night of drinking to determine if I would still enjoy the drinks. Anyone in good with a pharmacist? I'll volunteer to be the guinea pig. Then we could put this debate to rest. :grin:

[Yeti]

Jim's looking for a "morning after pill". I'm pretty sure they have those too.

[scubadoo97]

Interesting... But the magic pill I want would be an after-the-fact pill... Not to eliminate the effects, just to turn 'em off if the need arose.

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[DBM]

I wouldn't drink socially without the effect of alcohol, but I would like to learn and experiment without it.

I've definitely thought it would be advantageous for an alcoholic beverage (with no change to the sensory experience) to magically not have any alcoholic effects. I often do beer, wine and spirits tasting evenings (not at the same time of course) with friends and would prefer to be just as "fresh" on the last beer/wine/bourbon tasting as I was on the first.

Having said that, once I'm done tasting, I want a big tasty pour of something that will have an effect. I want it both ways. Don't quote me on that.

[HighHorse]

Yeah, this.

The whole 'taste OR alcohol' dichotomy is a false one. Besides the extra pleasurable effect of alcohol on the brain, alcohol actually intensifies flavors (especially sweet ones). And, obviously, alcohol itself has a certain taste factor that contributes to the whole taste experience. The 'effect', then, is both pleasurable in itself and bound up with the taste. Maybe we wish we could drink more without getting too drunk, but it is naive to think that we would actually enjoy whiskey without alcohol just because we want to avoid getting too drunk. At best, it would be a radically different experience - not the same taste experience without the ethanol. (think non-alcoholic beer, like KyDram mentioned)

... or .. we could just start exploring the taste nuances of Coca Cola, Dr. Pepper, Barqs .. and the like! One hell of a lot cheaper!

[squire]

Or we could just have a drink of the real stuff.

[Brisko]

Someone mentioned taking a magic pill to eliminate the effects. Well, there is such a pill: naltrexone hydrochloride. It's an opioid antagonist used to treat recovering alcoholics by blocking the euphoric effects of alcohol. I've thought for some time that it would be interesting to pop one of these before a night of drinking to determine if I would still enjoy the drinks. Anyone in good with a pharmacist? I'll volunteer to be the guinea pig. Then we could put this debate to rest. :grin:

My understanding is that you still get intoxicated, you just don't enjoy it. But I could be wrong.

... or .. we could just start exploring the taste nuances of Coca Cola, Dr. Pepper, Barqs .. and the like! One hell of a lot cheaper!

If I want a flavor experience without booze there's always coffee. Although, like many things, coffee is better with booze, too...

And root beer. Love me some root beer. Not enough to keep a spreadsheet with tasting notes, though.

[HighHorse]

What a hoot! This has been one entertaining thread. Ray .. did you have any idea you would start this with a simple false dilemma? Hell, up until this thread I didn't even know what some of these terms were. Thank you, Col. Crotchety, for lighting the fuse! (And, Squire as usual, for fanning the flame :hot:

BTW .. echoing a post a few back ... reference your OP .. I agree .. it's "No".

[squire]

Lunchtime, think I'll go make a cocktail. Something with a Bourbon theme, hmmm, perhaps Barton.

[CoMobourbon]

Something suddenly occurs to me.

The closest thing to enjoying whiskey taste without any alcohol ingestion would be restricting oneself to nosing whiskeys without drinking them. Very much less than an ideal solution from where I'm sitting, but there it is.

[squire]

The closest thing would be to read the posts here.

[sailor22]

The closest thing to enjoying whiskey taste without any alcohol ingestion would be restricting oneself to nosing whiskeys without drinking them.

That's like going to strip club and going home alone.

[squire]

I had a similar analogy in mind but chose discretion instead.

[MyOldKyDram]

Now I have this terrible feeling that if I actually drink my bourbon I'm going to wake up with vd.

[Meruck]

Someone mentioned taking a magic pill to eliminate the effects. Well, there is such a pill: naltrexone hydrochloride. It's an opioid antagonist used to treat recovering alcoholics by blocking the euphoric effects of alcohol. I've thought for some time that it would be interesting to pop one of these before a night of drinking to determine if I would still enjoy the drinks. Anyone in good with a pharmacist? I'll volunteer to be the guinea pig. Then we could put this debate to rest. :grin:

It blocks the euphoric effects, not the effect that leaves you begging for 1 more chance and swearing to never do it again as you lay in the fetal position after somehow crawling in behind the toilet in the female dorms.

[Meruck]

That's like going to strip club and going home alone.

I didnt know chemists were allowed in strip clubs.

[ratcheer]

My answer to the original question: No.

Tim