Restaurants & Whiskey

[hn4bourbon]

I can get a pour of pappy 15 for $20 at a local restaurant.

[squire]

I can get two bottles of Barton for $20 within a five mile radius.

[JPBoston]

I can get two bottles of Barton for $20 within a five mile radius.

Amen to that.

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[GaryT]

If they don't have a menu of what bourbons, or have them clearly displayed, I'll be a pain in the ass and ask them to make me a list I hate going into a restaurant and asking "What bourbons do you have?" and they look at me with a blank stare (or rattle nonsense like "Oh, we have Jack Daniels, Wild Turkey, Southern Comfort . . . ")

[squire]

I think they add Southern Comfort because they like the sound of it.

[oke&coke]

I think they add Southern Comfort because they like the sound of it.

No they're just stupid and don't know any better.

[hn4bourbon]

I can get two bottles of Barton for $20 within a five mile radius.

Yeah. You're right:) That was my first time tasting a pour of pappy15. Had to see what all the fuss was about!

[Restaurant man]

Yeah. You're right:) That was my first time tasting a pour of pappy15. Had to see what all the fuss was about!

Considering its a "must taste" bourbon. You got a deal.

[P&MLiquorsEric]

Considering its a "must taste" bourbon. You got a deal.

Agreed. Under 20 is a good deal on pappy15.

I have no problem paying good money for a pour at a bar. I understand the concept of the environment adding to the raw booze cost.

You aren't buying the booze, you are buying the opportunity to consume it in a certain location.

Booze consumption in a public place is a privilege not a right. Rights are free, privileges are not.

[JPBoston]

If they don't have a menu of what bourbons, or have them clearly displayed, I'll be a pain in the ass and ask them to make me a list I hate going into a restaurant and asking "What bourbons do you have?" and they look at me with a blank stare (or rattle nonsense like "Oh, we have Jack Daniels, Wild Turkey, Southern Comfort . . . ")

[squire]

Must taste Bourbons might make a good separate thread.

[GaryT]

Haha... another major pet peeve of mine. How can SO MANY bartenders be so ignorant? I'll even concede Jack Daniels as a bourbon without getting all that annoyed... but when they start naming off Crown Royal and J&B, I start questioning why I'd support a business with such little interest in the product they're selling.

[sutton]

Unfortunately around Atlanta, this is the norm more than an exception. They bucket "whiskey" all in one category (which it is, but I didn't ask for a whiskey - I asked for a bourbon!) And to hope for some rye whiskey?? Again - not withstanding some lovely establishments like Chops (located at 70 West Paces Ferry Rd NW in sunny Atlanta, GA; and frequently considered one of the top 10 best steakhouses in the country!), many of the joints around here are clueless.

pssst . . . Kev . . . am I off the list yet?

[hn4bourbon]

Considering its a "must taste" bourbon. You got a deal.

I actually thought it was reasonable as well considering the circumstances. This restaurant had it listed on their drinks menu but didn't have a price. When I asked the waiter, he said he didn't remember for sure but thought it was $40 for the pour, I said I'd pass. He said he would go double check. While he was away, my wife asked me how much would i pay for that pour, I said $20 at the most. The waiter then came back and said he was wrong and that it was $20. So, it worked out:)

It was good bourbon and i enjoyed it but I don't know if I would overpay or go through the trouble of looking for a bottle I felt that there are enough of other selections that are as enjoyable.

[petrel800]

I find this very interesting, I met my in-laws at a local restaurant that they go to often. They are very close friends with the owner, who apparently has been talking with my father-in-law about their bar and getting a younger crowd in. When I arrived, he brought the owner over and she started asking me questions about her bourbon selections. It very quickly became apparent where her knowledge of her bar came from . . . her distributor.

For instance, she had some Breckinridge on the shelf, she started to tell me that it was bourbon from Colorado and that it was 6 years old. I asked where she got that information and she said her distributor told her that. I found it funny that another guy at the bar tried to chime in at that point and say that it couldn't be bourbon if it wasn't from KY which I always find funny. The owner was genuinely interested when I told her about how companies buy barrels from other distilleries and how some folks are not totally honest about what's in their bottles. I just found it interesting all the stuff the distributor was telling her, I think a lot of the misinformation starts at that level and diseminates down through the staff.

[AnotherCigarGuy]

I actually thought it was reasonable as well considering the circumstances. This restaurant had it listed on their drinks menu but didn't have a price. When I asked the waiter, he said he didn't remember for sure but thought it was $40 for the pour, I said I'd pass. He said he would go double check. While he was away, my wife asked me how much would i pay for that pour, I said $20 at the most. The waiter then came back and said he was wrong and that it was $20. So, it worked out:)

It was good bourbon and i enjoyed it but I don't know if I would overpay or go through the trouble of looking for a bottle I felt that there are enough of other selections that are as enjoyable.

I'd say you paying $20 for a pour of an $80 bottle was WAY better then me paying $12 for a $24 retail bottle! Like, TWICE as good.........

[MJB]

I paid 64 for a pour of Jefferson Ocean...

Was it worth it...no

Would I do it again given the chance to sample a nearly nonexistent bottle. Yep

[hn4bourbon]

I'd say you paying $20 for a pour of an $80 bottle was WAY better then me paying $12 for a $24 retail bottle! Like, TWICE as good.........

hehehe...from a money sense standpoint, we're pretty close on those two:) just two pours away:)

I paid 64 for a pour of Jefferson Ocean...

Was it worth it...no

Would I do it again given the chance to sample a nearly nonexistent bottle. Yep

As far as how i approach pours when i'm out somewhere, I think you really nailed it with that sentiment. I would pay what I think is reasonable in my mind (everyone has their own gauge on "reasonable") to sample something that i want to try but am having just a really hard time finding a bottle of.

[bigtoys]

Girl and the Goat has this cool looking bar and if you look closely, you can see the BTAC bottles lined up. They also frequently have barrel aged cocktails. Another restaurant in the same group, GT Fish & Oyster, also has the BTAC's and the Pappys.

[tanstaafl2]

I paid 64 for a pour of Jefferson Ocean...

Was it worth it...no

Would I do it again given the chance to sample a nearly nonexistent bottle. Yep

Now see, if you had found SB sooner and made it to a recent GBS event you could have had a pour of my Jeff Ocean and I wouldn't have charged you $64!

Probably just $50 tops.

Plus the goat's cut...

:shocked:

[MJB]

Now see, if you had found SB sooner and made it to a recent GBS event you could have had a pour of my Jeff Ocean and I wouldn't have charged you $64!

Probably just $50 tops.

Plus the goat's cut...

:shocked:

I had two bottles of it, someone wanted it a lot more than I did though. People really wanted the Ocean for some reason. I thought it was good, but not that good.

[tanstaafl2]

I had two bottles of it, someone wanted it a lot more than I did though. People really wanted the Ocean for some reason. I thought it was good, but not that good.

Probably collectors and not drinkers but perhaps not. I think I would just as soon pour it down the drain as give or even sell it to someone I know is never going to drink it or is buying it solely to try to flip it for a perceived profit.

Not that I have a good way of knowing either of those things most of the time. Then again I have never bought a bottle with the intention of having it as an investment to sell down the road anyway. My tendency to open many of them as soon as I get home, to include the Ocean, kind of makes that hard anyway!

[squire]

Bourbon was made to be drunk, good Bourbon to be drunk with friends.

[sutton]

There was nothing special about the Jeff distillate, they just put it to sea for a few years. I can think of crazier things to do with a barrel of bourbon - pay me $100/bottle and I can come up with ideas until I build my retirement fund ...

[squire]

Moonlight and maidens come to mind, the idea has merit.