smokinjoe Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Loved Sour Mash, thought Tornado was okay, single barrel was meh.What really strikes be about CEHT, is that just like Stagg Jr., BT has figured out the surge in premium Bourbon, so they're using fancy packaging/marketing to pass off $20-$30 Bourbon for $50 and up. I feel that any new "premium" labels that BT puts out going forward will be even bigger rip-offs. They understand the market better than all the other majors, IMHO, and they're taking advantage of that. I'm not blaming them for making a buck, but think about this: If the BTAC didn't already exist, and it was being launched tomorrow, the suggested retail would be $150, and they'd probably sell out, except for Handy, which always hangs around.WD, I think your premise that BT understands the market is spot on. They do seem to be very good business people. Which hopefully will result in them staying around for many years to come. Barrel Proof, 9 yr old whiskey for $20-$30? 50 bucks seems reasonable for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Dog Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 WD, I think your premise that BT understands the market is spot on. They do seem to be very good business people. Which hopefully will result in them staying around for many years to come. Barrel Proof, 9 yr old whiskey for $20-$30? 50 bucks seems reasonable for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherCigarGuy Posted September 27, 2013 Author Share Posted September 27, 2013 One man's opinion:I think anybody that hasn't tried it this way yet needs to give the Barrel Proof a few slow, really small sips NEAT! I found it to be lovely and complex that way, and the finish lasts and lasts. I know drinking a dram of that strength neat isn't everybody's cup of tea, but for the sake of adventure; try it that way. I love it! I'd even say it's my favorite of the Brand-Family. THAT is going to be my approach. Will have to pair with a BIG flavoured cigar, but no problem there........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Last night I had the last pour of my CEHT rye, and am still smacking my lips. Bottle had been opened a while, and I remember thinking it was pretty pricey for what it delivered during earlier pours. Now I may get another if I have the chance. I've been happy when there is a Handy left on the shelf after the rush, as I've always enjoyed them. Lucked into a VWFRR a couple of years ago, and wasn't wowed. And I love my Pappy. Go figure. Good thing RIT BIB is always around when I need a rye fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyfish Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 Good thing RIT BIB is always around when I need a rye fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_Draper Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 CEHTBP is one of the few bourbons I've had that improved with a cube of ice. Give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnDew Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Completely agree. Some days I love it straight. But on other days when it is running to hot. Let it breathe. One ice cube and man it opens the flavor up. I love the barrel proof!! My two bottles of this and Rittenhouse arrive Tuesday, I can't wait! Now I just need to get my hands on the EHT rye and the winkle rye and I'll be set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 I think it's an 80% rye mashbill. I probably learned that from a dude named Josh.I dunno about that guy's information. Doesn't seem reliable to me. :cool:And for the record, I like the Small Batch a lot. I haven't had the Single Barrel or the Barrel Proof though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryT Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Barrel Proof I thought was unimpressive and overpriced (at $70; I prefer Bookers over this one every time). Tornado was pretty great stuff. I thought the rye was decent, but perhaps too pricey for my palate. Obviously, YMMV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettckeen Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 How is it that you believe the rye is a different recipe than baby saz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithford Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 How is it that you believe the rye is a different recipe than baby saz?Buffalo Trace said so in their press release. Reported here by Mr. Cowdery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenupdegrave Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 One man's opinion:I think anybody that hasn't tried it this way yet needs to give the Barrel Proof a few slow, really small sips NEAT!I found it to be lovely and complex that way, and the finish lasts and lasts. I know drinking a dram of that strength neat isn't everybody's cup of tea, but for the sake of adventure; try it that way. I love it! I'd even say it's my favorite of the Brand-Family.I enjoy the barrel proof exactly that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suntour Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 The other night I did blind side-by-sides of the Small Batch, Old Tub BIB, Old Heaven Hill BIB, and VOB BIB.Pretty, pretty interesting. If what you're looking for is value, clearly it was the loser, as it was only incrementally better than any of the other participating whiskies. It kind of makes sense as a brand addition though, putting out a Buffalo Trace BIB might have been a good idea before the explosion in interest in bourbon, but not now. Buffalo Trace BIB with a fancier label and price-tag? You bet your britches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWBourbonDrinker Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I enjoy the barrel proof exactly that way.Same here. I also really enjoy the CEHT BP. It is very different from the other BP offerings and in a very enjoyable way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewdc Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I've had the rye a few and like it--has some real nice spice to it but maybe a tad too much heat. But the price point does make it difficult with other items out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegator Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I personally have had the small batch and single barrel and find them both really good. To me the small batch is woodier and the single barrel is a little sweeter. Again, being a single barrel - I'm sure other people's experiences have been different. I think the small batch at a $40 price point is a solid value. I recently bought a bottle of the barrel proof but haven't opened it yet. I'm looking forward to tasting it against other BPs that I have which are Stagg Jr and ECBP. I've not ever found the Tornado (had it at a bar once) but I'm on a quest for it so hopefully one day - I'll get a bottle. I've not tried the rye as I'm hesitant to shell out $70 for a bottle of rye because it's usually not someting that I really like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rndenks Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I recently got my hands on the barrel proof this weekend, and had a pour on Friday. With a couple of splashes of water this stuff tasted awesome. I thought maybe it was a fluke of the first pour or my pallet, so I had another pour on Saturday. Same results.I am still pretty new to tasting bourbon, and my experience with barrel proofs are limited. But this seemed to reach a whole new level of tastes and feel for me. I am interested in putting up against some others in a tasting to see if it holds up, but as now I will be trying the other EHT's, and I will be buying the EHT BP again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshani Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I just picked up the small batch and the rye tonight, and love them. I don't know if the sour mash is available or not (I had these special ordered at a neighborhood place) but that's next on my list if it is. The small batch is the first BT Rye Bourbon Mash #1 offering that I actually enjoy. However they worked their vatting, it's pretty solid. And I'm partial to higher rye mashbills by far but this is lovely stuff for a softer, more caramel-ish pour.The rye is also nice, and BT rye does have a signature to it. It's not the same mashbill as Sazerac, but it shares a lot of the same aroma and flavor. I'm guessing it's the variety of rye used, or perhaps their yeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanstaafl2 Posted November 7, 2013 Share Posted November 7, 2013 I just picked up the small batch and the rye tonight, and love them. I don't know if the sour mash is available or not (I had these special ordered at a neighborhood place) but that's next on my list if it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boneuphtoner Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 Picked up my very first EHT today....the single barrel to be exact. First impression is that it is better than my usual BIBs that are a staple around here like HH and VOB. Dangerously drinkable, this is a delicious sippin whiskey. Worth the money? Hard to say. I absolutely refused to pay $50 for this, and when I was closing in on a 10% case discount with other stuff, I decided to throw it in the cart. I think it is worth close to the $45 I paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettckeen Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Buffalo Trace said so in their press release. Reported here by Mr. Cowdery.Thanks for the clarification, both being mint bombs, and baby saz a bit more mature, it's hard for me to tell. I'd like to know the malted barley percentage when comparing to LDI's recipe. But I only have pulled the trigger on the EHT Rye when I found it misspriced at $30EH Taylor has grown on me. Didn't care for the first BP, but I'm really enjoying this years BP. Sour Mash being me least favorite, SmB is in my current rotation, seems like just a rebranding of sour mash, but better barrels. Tornado is delicious. These taste very different than other BT #1 recipe bourbons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Thanks for the clarification, both being mint bombs, and baby saz a bit more mature, it's hard for me to tell. I'd like to know the malted barley percentage when comparing to LDI's recipe. But I only have pulled the trigger on the EHT Rye when I found it misspriced at $30EH Taylor has grown on me. Didn't care for the first BP, but I'm really enjoying this years BP. Sour Mash being me least favorite, SmB is in my current rotation, seems like just a rebranding of sour mash, but better barrels. Tornado is delicious. These taste very different than other BT #1 recipe bourbons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I'm of the school that believes limited production does not mean higher quality, just higher price. Still, being somewhat exclusive and higher priced appeals to some folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettckeen Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The latest barrel proof id pay 80 for, the others, not so sure. Where did you get the age stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbroo5880i Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The latest barrel proof id pay 80 for, the others, not so sure. Where did you get the age stats?Off Caskers websiteColonel E.H. Taylor Jr. Single Barrel Bourbon is aged for 11 years and 7 months in new, American oak casks in a century-old warehouse constructed by Taylor. Once the bourbon has reached its peak of maturity, it is bottled in bond at 100 proof. Taylor Single Barrel Bourbon has an aroma of oaky spices, figs and maple syrup. The notes of orange peel, dates, roasted nuts and tobacco lead to a sweet finish that is complemented by a hint of intense oak.and KL Wines websiteColonel E.H. Taylor, Jr. Small Batch Bottled in Bond Straight Kentucky Bourbon 750ml SKU #1120322 This bourbon, bottled in bond, was aged for seven years in the famous Colonel Taylor's warehouse built in 1881. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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