JPS 25 Year Small Batch

[final442]

I have not seen any threads or anything about this but saw it listed on the NC ABC price list.

http://abc.nc.gov/pricing/view_item.aspx?filing=74616

Also a 25 year rye. Anyone have any info on this release?

[smknjoe]

Nope, but before anyone asks it's a ryed recipe unless it explicitly says wheat on the label.

[B.B. Babington]

the 21 was advertised as mix of 21 to 24 yo barrels, so now we know where the 25 yo barrels are?

[squire]

So will we see a 26 in the future.

[WAINWRIGHT]

I honestly wonder how far out they will be able to pull from these aging stocks,they are getting near the aging ranks of the PHC 27 and Hirsch 28 yr.I honestly lost all interest in the line when then transition went to a rye based ,don't get me wrong still a quality whiskey just not as intriguing to me as the wheater JPS 17/18's previously released said label.

[brettckeen]

I honestly wonder how far out they will be able to pull from these aging stocks,they are getting near the aging ranks of the PHC 27 and Hirsch 28 yr.I honestly lost all interest in the line when then transition went to a rye based ,don't get me wrong still a quality whiskey just not as intriguing to me as the wheater JPS 17/18's previously released said label.

I am in absolute agreement here.

[tanstaafl2]

I honestly wonder how far out they will be able to pull from these aging stocks,they are getting near the aging ranks of the PHC 27 and Hirsch 28 yr.I honestly lost all interest in the line when then transition went to a rye based ,don't get me wrong still a quality whiskey just not as intriguing to me as the wheater JPS 17/18's previously released said label.

The Jeff was originally a rye based whiskey (in as much they tell us anything about the source). The wheated 17/18 yo was the the exception, not the the standard.

Seems that they only time they tell you the source seems to be when it is something they want to use to promote the product as was the case with the S-W connection of the 17/18yo S-W bourbon. If the wheated whiskey had been from KBD or was HH stock we probably would have never heard about where it came from. Rather like the ongoing mystery about the past and current source for the 10yo rye.

A shame really as the whiskey has generally been good quality but the deliberate obfuscation has generally turned me off. Of course Jefferson is not alone in the practice of deliberate obfuscation!

[smokinjoe]

Just me speaking my own opinion, here...But, the entire JPS line has been a yawner from day one. The only excitement for it was in trying to determine what they meant with the clumsy S-W reference on the first label. From then on, it's been a continuation of milking the cow...'cept now, we even have a different cow(s)...

[WAINWRIGHT]

The Jeff was originally a rye based whiskey (in as much they tell us anything about the source). The wheated 17/18 yo was the the exception, not the the standard.

A shame really as the whiskey has generally been good quality but the deliberate obfuscation has generally turned me off. Of course Jefferson is not alone in the practice of deliberate obfuscation!

I really couldn't agree more,but glittering generalizations sell whiskey and I fully concur that the original 15yr. rye based was also a great whiskey,just before all the SW hype. Edited October 3, 2013 by WAINWRIGHT

[alexle92]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 21yr and the 25yr are Canadian right?

[Restaurant man]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the 21yr and the 25yr are Canadian right?

[tanstaafl2]

The 21 rye is Canadian I believe. The 25 was listed as "north American" no one really knows where it's from but no doubt opinions are easy to come by

[squire]

Or the wood got filtered out.

[tanstaafl2]

Or the wood got filtered out.

Would seem like it would take a lot of filtering to do that and more than just the oakyness would be gone. But I suppose anything is possible?

[squire]

I don't pretend to understand the science but understanding there are a number of ways to filter the product to achieve specific results. The chill filtering we speak of so often is just one of the ways.

[Restaurant man]

Did you get confirmation that the Jeff Rye 21 is indeed Canadian, Kevin? I don't think the bottle provides any insight but will need to check again. It would certainly seem reasonable to think that the 25 is from the same source and the lack of wood that it seems to have suggests maybe the aging occured in a cool northerly clime!

Nope. Just distilling all the misinformation and conjecture to draw my own conclusions

[squire]

A clear label would help. What, are they not proud of their product's origins.

[tanstaafl2]

A clear label would help. What, are they not proud of their product's origins.

[squire]

Well that does it then! I'm certainly willing to do my part in supporting the North American Rye farmers.

[Vange]

looks as if a 30 year is coming

does that make it oldest bourbon in bottle ever?

http://www.bourbonblog.com/blog/2013/12/04/jeffersons-30-year-old-bourbon/

[tanstaafl2]

looks as if a 30 year is coming

does that make it oldest bourbon in bottle ever?

http://www.bourbonblog.com/blog/2013/12/04/jeffersons-30-year-old-bourbon/

Already arrived, in Atlanta anyway. Have seen at least one on the shelf but gone now.