Colonel Duke Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I'm sure plenty of you have heard and may have even tasted the Southern Belle Shiraz which was aged in Pappy Van Winkle barrels, but does anyone here have any experience with the Southern Belle red wine?I picked up a bottle tonight, and haven't been able to find anything about it online. I was looking for the Shiraz, but found this. Bottle says it's from Spain and is a 2011 vintage that weighs in a little over 16 percent alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clavius Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 The most info I could find on it is here on CellarTracker: https://www.cellartracker.com/wine.asp?iWine=1697876 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBottle Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 That links says it is Jumilla. Jumilla produces a few decent bottles, but most of what the region produces tends to be bulk wine. I am guessing that the lack of info and need for a gimmicky finish means it is bulk (i.e. cheap table wine). If you are interested in a good Spanish wine, go grab a nice Reserva/Gran Reserva Rioja or Ribera del Duero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P&MLiquorsEric Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I tried it when a rep brought it in. It wasn't the worst wine a rep has brought in. But it wasn't a great value either. If it was a $12 retail, I would have brought it in. But at $20ish, it's in a crowded price point for an average wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I enjoyed it, but know very little about/am not the most discerning wine drinker. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 According to my wine salesman brother in-law, the winery that released the Van Winkle finished Shiraz went out of business. I think there is a story behind his failure, so I will have to ask him over dinner today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P&MLiquorsEric Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 And it was an Australian Shiraz. From McLaren Vale. And the price point would have been closer to $25 than $20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callmeox Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 My brother is law, for all of his quirks, is damn sharp when it comes to wine. I asked him what the deal was with R Wines and he rattled off the names of the principals (Ringland and Philips) and said that there was a real mess with the downturn leaving some big unpaid bills in Australia and he's now selling wine out of Spain.Here's a Wine Spectator article from 2010 about the financial problems. http://www.winespectator.com/webfeature/show/id/43140I've held on to most of the case of the original Shiraz that I bought and I'm itching to open another bottle soon. It goes great with hearty foods like beef stew or pot roast and is definitely a Winter wine for me.It's disappointing if the version out of Spain isn't up to the earlier release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clavius Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Thanks for the info, Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Duke Posted December 1, 2013 Author Share Posted December 1, 2013 Aha. Thanks for the info. I'll have to report back when I've tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Duke Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 I cracked my bottle recently and really enjoy this one. Like MyOldKyDram I don't know much about wine, but this one tastes great, and has the Pappy pedigree. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clavius Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Opened a bottle of this tonight and boy is it hot. The alcohol aside, it tastes rather thin and one dimensional to me. To be brutally honest I think this one's gonna get poured down the drain. I hate to do it with a $20 bottle but oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P&MLiquorsEric Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Opened a bottle of this tonight and boy is it hot. The alcohol aside, it tastes rather thin and one dimensional to me. To be brutally honest I think this one's gonna get poured down the drain. I hate to do it with a $20 bottle but oh well. I wasn't that impressed when I tasted it. Lots of great Syrah/Shiraz at that price point. There is a reason bourbon barrels aren't used in wine aging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyOldKyDram Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The one I've found (off the top of my head) that I like is Wildside's BBR out of Versailles, the KY one. One of the few KY wines I've had I could actually stomach, truthfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P&MLiquorsEric Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 The one I've found (off the top of my head) that I like is Wildside's BBR out of Versailles, the KY one. One of the few KY wines I've had I could actually stomach, truthfully.We sell a ton of KY wine so I can't knock it but most is way to sweet for this guy. Not to mention there are 70+ wineries in KY. Only a few grow any fruit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I thought dollars were their main crop Eric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P&MLiquorsEric Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I thought dollars were their main crop Eric.Everyone is selling some form of widget. Sweet wines have a place in the wine market. Just as GNS has a place in the whiskey world. Purists don't like it but the sales and accounting departments do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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