new Beam Single Barrel

[shoshani]

While slightly more expensive, wouldn't the KCSB be a better deal?

Given that the mashbill is identical, probably. Does anyone have the skinny on production details? I thought I remembered Chuck Cowdery saying that KC is brought off the still at a slightly lower proof, or barrelled at, or maybe both, but I forget the details. Or my mind could just be making it up.

[mbroo5880i]

Given that the mashbill is identical, probably. Does anyone have the skinny on production details? I thought I remembered Chuck Cowdery saying that KC is brought off the still at a slightly lower proof, or barrelled at, or maybe both, but I forget the details. Or my mind could just be making it up.

Ok, so there may be other factors that may differentiate the product. I think that is my basic question. I am not a big Beam fan. I really like OGD and I am ok with Knobs Creek but the Jim Beam brands are meh. However, this one might be worth a try. My guess is that there will be some sort of roll out at retailers to allow folks to try before they buy.

[squire]

I was curious about the details myself. Different still and/or aging proofs could make a difference between the two.

[GaryT]

I'm interested to try it, but when I can pick up EWSB at $25 or less around these parts (and typically 10yrs, no?) - not sure I'll be running out to buy JBSB. Not a "hater" - I'm glad to see them getting into that category. To Joe's point - our opinion is the absolute least of their concerns. I'll continue to support them via OGD (because to me, THAT is where they show they care about us)

[sutton]

I'll give it a try - I might be in the minority on this one, but I prefer KC to KCSB - I found the KCSB to be a bit harsh/woody. I'm a fan of Booker's, but thought the KCSB bit back too hard.

Thumbs-up for Beam if they are trying to differentiate beyond warehouse location, size of batch, and how much water is added. I'd be excited to try it if coming off the still lower and/or barreling at a lower proof.

[weller_tex]

Given that the mashbill is identical, probably. Does anyone have the skinny on production details? I thought I remembered Chuck Cowdery saying that KC is brought off the still at a slightly lower proof, or barrelled at, or maybe both, but I forget the details. Or my mind could just be making it up.

[zillah]

Chuck's post on Beam distillation proofs and the differences between Beam whiskies is here: http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?10588-Beam-Distillation-Proofs&highlight=jim+beam+entry+proof

Off-the still proof for Jim Beam is 135, Knob Creek is 130 and Baker's and Booker's are 125. All barrel entry proofs are 125 so JB and KC are watered down. This practice started around 2008, so depending on the age will depend on whether these off-the still proofs are reflected in the new product or not.

[weller_tex]

Chuck's post on Beam distillation proofs and the differences between Beam whiskies is here: http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showthread.php?10588-Beam-Distillation-Proofs&highlight=jim+beam+entry+proof

Off-the still proof for Jim Beam is 135, Knob Creek is 130 and Baker's and Booker's are 125. All barrel entry proofs are 125 so JB and KC are watered down. This practice started around 2008, so depending on the age will depend on whether these off-the still proofs are reflected in the new product or not.

Thanks for the link.

[OscarV]

I read Cowdery's article but I didn't see any mention of an age statement.

To bad they are cutting it down to 95prf, that will be a lot of added water that never touched any wood.

[squire]

Thanks zillah, I was hoping someone would link that, every time I thought to look it up I got sidetracked.

[BourbonJoe]

Knob Creek is 9 years, 120 proof and cost $40.00. The new Beam SB is NAS, 95 proof and cost $35.00.

I'll reach for the Knob, thanks.

Joe :usflag:

[r60slash5]

I got a couple to try. no age statement.

[P&MLiquorsEric]

We opened a bottle at the store. It's definitely beam but not a bad pour. Tried side by side with a beam 12 year that has been open for months.

[Thig]

Tried side by side with a beam 12 year that has been open for months.

And the results were?

[393foureyedfox]

And the results were?

yeah....

Im wondering two things....

how much is it, and is it pretty much the same profile as KC?

nice looking bottle though!

[P&MLiquorsEric]

The 12 year had more depth but is thin at 86 proof. The single barrel needs some air time. I will revisit when it has been opened for some time.

Us enthusiasts will compare this to knob creek but I don't think that is beams goal with this. They are putting another premium offering on the shelf while other distilleries are withdrawing brands/labels.

[r60slash5]

I just finished a KC SB. There's more heat in the finsh of the JB. I like KB better so far, but the JB's growing on me. $34.99 for the JBSB, the JB signature 12year was on sale for the same. KCSB on sale for $38.99 regularly $42.99

Ted

[393foureyedfox]

I just finished a KC SB. There's more heat in the finsh of the JB. I like KB better so far, but the JB's growing on me. $34.99 for the JBSB, the JB signature 12year was on sale for the same. KCSB on sale for $38.99 regularly $42.99

Ted

you think there's more heat in the finish of the 95 proof JBSB than the 120 proof KCSB?

interesting....