New Barton Bourbons

[JPBoston]

I know! I know! How about a 6 year old at 100 proof.

Ha!

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[fishnbowljoe]

Have to wait and see what, if anything happens with these possible offerings from Barton/Sazerac. The Sweet Wheat and Single Barrel have me somewhat interested.

As for grits, well, even though I was born and raised in the north, my roots are southern. When I was a kid, grits were something that we always had around in our household. I had many a bowl of grits when I was growing up. Every so often, my mother would change things up a bit and get hominy grits. I loves me some grits. :grin: Polenta not so much. :frown: Can't wait for the sampler. Gonna order me up a big bowl of grits with my Kentucky Hot Brown breakfast when we go to Mammy's. :yum:

[JPBoston]

Have to wait and see what, if anything happens with these possible offerings from Barton/Sazerac. The Sweet Wheat and Single Barrel have me somewhat interested.

That sweet-wheat has my attention as well. With OWA MIA here, Old Fitz going away (apparently), and no Larceny... wheaters are thin pickin's.

We never (in recent history) had the VOB line... but do get the RR 1792 and Old Fitz... so maybe we'll be in store for this new Barton lineup AND Larceny soon.

And just for the record, somebody here busted my balls for saying Larceny was just like a store selection of Old Fitz BIB.... and now there's news of OF being discontinued to be dumped into Larceny?? HA! #Winning!!!

[smokinjoe]

That's like saying all hot cereals are the same as they are cooked grains that you eat with a spoon...but it's not what you posted above. You didn't say that they were similar, you said that they were different in name only and that's not the case.

Grits are made with dent corn (the bourbon connection), polenta from flint corn. Hominy grits are from dried corn that has undergone an alkali process, polenta is not alkali treated.

I understand that with your volume of posts there's bound to make a mistake here and there and I hope to save a southerner some money if they order polenta expecting grits.

Dang, O. Now, that's some grit knowledge. That was "My Cousin Vinny" inspiring!

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=grits+my+cousin+vinny&FORM=VIRE5#view=detail&mid=FEB03F68FEB18EE6DE40FEB03F68FEB18EE6DE40

[MyOldKyDram]

Grits is serious business.

And now I want some badly.

[rndenks]

I only eat age stated grits, but I like my polenta to be a husk proof....wait I am getting confused now.

I follow a lot what has been said already. I am interested in the new offerings, and curious as to what will happen to the RR1792. I will try these at the right price.

[Josh]

These all look interesting. I hope we get them all up here. Can't say I'm too broken up about Ridgemont Reserve apparently going the way of the Dodo.

[squire]

Is there a spot for Ridgemont Reserve in the new lineup? That would seem to be confusing at the least.

[Tony Santana]

I'm actually encouraged about this development - depending on price. I like the 1792 RR (or at least I did when it was the 8 year age stated), a fairly tasty pour at a very reasonable price. If that's any standard, then having the options of a single barrel, a wheater, etc. SHOULD be a good thing.

Query - why lose goodwill by removing the age statement from the current 1792 if you're going to totally revamp the product anyway and make it into a multi-offering line?

[Josh]

Is there a spot for Ridgemont Reserve in the new lineup? That would seem to be confusing at the least.

It would be. I'm assuming the Small Batch is the replacement for the Ridgemont.

[smokinjoe]

I think this is a great development. 5 new whiskies (Or, at least 3-4) from a distillery that I wasn't sure was going to be around much longer. Sazerac continues to show their acute business acumen by again shuffling the deck, and giving the market what it wants, and most likely increasing their own revenue and margins. Now, if they add a Barton made, aged, higher proof rye to the mix, I'll simply become delirious with joy! :bis: Damn, these guys are good.

[PaulO]

As others have stated, I'm interested, but price will be a factor. If most of these are in the same ballpark as regular BT, I'd buy it without even reading reviews. I expect the high proof to be a little more money. Overall, I look forward these. If I have to choose between 90+ proof NAS, and age stated 80-86 proof, I'll take the NAS.

[squire]

Believe I would also Paul. I don't have any problem with reasonably priced 4-5-6 year old Bourbon, just draw the line at buying one masquerading as older.

[smokinjoe]

...And just for the record, somebody here busted my balls for saying Larceny was just like a store selection of Old Fitz BIB.... and now there's news of OF being discontinued to be dumped into Larceny?? HA! #Winning!!!

If they are in fact discontinuing OFBIB, it's in order to free up more wheated bourbon in general, for other brands, which presumably would include Larceny. They are not dumping OF into Larceny. Plus, there are significant age, barrel selection, batch profile targets, and rickhouse location differences involved between the 4 yr old OFBIB, and Larceny which is a mixture of barrels that are anywhere from 6 to 12 years old.

[sku]

It would be. I'm assuming the Small Batch is the replacement for the Ridgemont.

Why are you assuming Ridgemont will go away?

[Quantum]

If they are in fact discontinuing OFBIB, it's in order to free up more wheated bourbon in general, for other brands, which presumably would include Larceny. They are not dumping OF into Larceny. Plus, there are significant age, barrel selection, batch profile targets, and rickhouse location differences involved between the 4 yr old OFBIB, and Larceny which is a mixture of barrels that are anywhere from 6 to 12 years old.

I haven't done a side by side with these two in a while, but I agree that they have significantly different flavor profiles. There is definitely a relationship between them, but sometimes we try to oversimplify the relationship between anything that uses a common mashbill.

[weller_tex]

Thanks Sku. I hope the wheater is actually being distilled by Barton. I'd like to see their take on it.

[tanstaafl2]

Thanks Sku. I hope the wheater is actually being distilled by Barton. I'd like to see their take on it.

[TunnelTiger]

Never seen OFBIB around here but Larceny is always on the shelf. Just not really to my liking.

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[Josh]

I dunno, I would not be surprised to know that Barton has been distilling wheated bourbon. They have always played close to the chest when it comes to what they do and don't make. A few years ago, shortly after Sazerac bought them, I remember reports coming out about how a wide variety of whiskeys were discovered in the warehouses, including straight wheat whiskey. I took a tour later and my tour guide conformed this. Who knows what else is in those warehouses?

I'm just glad they're doing something with Barton instead of just using the warehouses for BT.

[smokinjoe]

I'm just glad they're doing something with Barton instead of just using the warehouses for BT.

[tanstaafl2]

That's the big takeaway for me, too.

[P&MLiquorsEric]

This sounds like a sister to the EH Taylor line. Might be a shelf below it but a way for Sazarac to keep valuable shelf facings that they are losing due to the rolling blackouts with BT.

[smokinjoe]

Well, maybe they are using this line to help clean out the warehouses and make room for more BT barrels!

[squire]

Where ever Barton gets the Wheat version I'm glad to see Sazerac promoting the brand(s).