Heaven Hill shortage

[garbanzobean]

The Mckenna 10yr is one I have to try soon. It isn't in stores here but it is listed on the SLO list (special order ship to your local store for pickup) at 35.99 or 35.49, can't remember which, with a minimum order of 3 bottles. I believe they just purchase from out of state distributors when you want something not carried, so there probably are technically no bottles of Mckenna in the state stores. I'm going to order 3 next payday, can't imagine I won't love it being HH, ten yrs old and BiB.

$36 is pretty high. I might pay that much for a store select I knew was good, but the regular stuff is questionable at that price.

[squire]

I've had somewhat spotty results with Henry McKenna 10 year single over the years. One bottle would be first rate and another less so. Got to where I just quit buying them but enough good reports are trickling in perhaps Heaven Hill has worked the kinks out of this brand.

[BootsOnTheGround]

No shortage. HH has over 80 whiskey labels. They have so much EC12 they barrel dump it and triple the price.

OHH 8 yr is an official dusty. But I just bought some last week within the 494/694 loop, so it's still around.

[JPBoston]

No shortage. HH has over 80 whiskey labels. They have so much EC12 they barrel dump it and triple the price.

OHH 8 yr is an official dusty. But I just bought some last week within the 494/694 loop, so it's still around.

The only weird thing is, right about when they released the BP, EC12 went out of stock here, long term.

[BootsOnTheGround]

The only weird thing is, right about when they released the BP, EC12 went out of stock here, long term.

One market's lul doesn't mean there's a nationwide "shortage."

As Cowdery has said in the past, Maker's Mark has been on "allocation" pretty much since it's inception. All that means is that the distributor just can't order it all the time, whenever they want and receive it all the time, whenever they want. Plus, LQ stores pretty much run on just in time inventory and there's only so much shelf space.

Sometimes your neighborhood McDonalds is out of Shamrock Shakes when you show up. Find another store that does? It's the nature of the consumer flow of products.

[JPBoston]

One market's lul doesn't mean there's a nationwide "shortage."

As Cowdery has said in the past, Maker's Mark has been on "allocation" pretty much since it's inception. All that means is that the distributor just can't order it all the time, whenever they want and receive it all the time, whenever they want. Plus, LQ stores pretty much run on just in time inventory and there's only so much shelf space.

Sometimes your neighborhood McDonalds is out of Shamrock Shakes when you show up. Find another store that does? It's the nature of the consumer flow of products.

Never said there was an official shortage. Thanks for the condescending reply though.

And I wouldn't compare a single store running out of a daily stock to two national chains in an area running out of stock for 6+ months.

[squire]

Maker's Mark has been on "allocation" pretty much since it's inception.

Not really, the Samuels family was struggling with it which is one of the reasons why they sold out to a major. It was the marketing muscle of Hiram Walker that made the brand a hit.

[DBM]

And I wouldn't compare a single store running out of a daily stock to two national chains in an area running out of stock for 6+ months.

[Phil T]

If I had top secret sales information (not saying I do) and told you then it would no longer be a secret.[/QU, OTE]

I'm sorry. I misspoke. You told us in another thread that HH BIB was never a big seller. I asked you if you had some inside intel, you said yes, but you couldn't disclose because it was classified.

Since we are bourbon geeks, we love inside info. Since we can get the inside scoop through you, what does HH say. Please share.

[BourbonJoe]

I've had somewhat spotty results with Henry McKenna 10 year single over the years. One bottle would be first rate and another less so. Got to where I just quit buying them but enough good reports are trickling in perhaps Heaven Hill has worked the kinks out of this brand.

[smokinjoe]

Some time back, we tasted thru 8 or 10 barrels of McKenna. They were all terrible and we did not pick a barrel we thought was any good.

Joe :usflag:

[squire]

Good question, I've wondered the same thing myself.

[squire]

Phil I remember that post now that you mention it. My classified comment was an inside joke for some of my Kentucky acquaintances because I wouldn't want them to think I was repeating private conversations in a public forum.

Regarding Heaven Hill BIBs I don't think any of them (Heaven Hill, EW, Dant, Samuels, et al) have been big sellers based on their limited distribution. I've only seen T.W. Samuels BIB in one store and believe me I've looked over the Bourbon section in a lot of places. It's something I do while traveling and a wife tugging on your sleeve at a liquor store can be as persistent as a child asking are we there yet.

[Phil T]

Phil I remember that post now that you mention it. My classified comment was an inside joke for some of my Kentucky acquaintances .

Dang squire, being how HH is a family business, we never get any true insider intel, I was hoping you were it

[mbroo5880i]

Just curious on others thoughts relative to HH product profiles. I find EC12 to be more woody and less "sweet" than EW or HKM. I believe they all have the same mashbill. Age and barrel location seem to be the difference.

How do others compare the flavor profiles of EC12, EWSB (10 yr) and HKM (10 yr)?

[squire]

Yes, they all start out the same, mashbill, yeast, mashing and distilling procedures, but age differently which is how Heaven Hill, with it's large stocks of aging whisky, can select and blend to different profiles.

Of the three mentioned I would reach first for the Single Barrel expression.

[mbroo5880i]

Yes, they all start out the same, mashbill, yeast, mashing and distilling procedures, but age differently which is how Heaven Hill, with it's large stocks of aging whisky, can select and blend to different profiles.

Of the three mentioned I would reach first for the Single Barrel expression.

Yeah, they sure have a lot to work with! I believe I agree with EWSB, EC12 and then HKM. I have had a few EC12 single barrels that were really good but they were still within the EC12 profile. Same with HKM.