Bib & Tucker?

[Hop]

Ran across this today and hadn't seen it or heard anything about it. Did a search but not sure if it's a Tapatalk issue or not but I rarely have any luck on searches. Anyway it's a 6 year old Bourbon and was around $55 IIRC

Anyone heard of or tried this one?

Hop

[Tucker]

I happened to see it on the shelf this afternoon. It's from the company that distributes Masterson's, and there's a pretty comprehensive description of it on Caskers (states a mash bill of of 70% corn, 26% rye and 4% malted barley) and WhiskyCast. $55 is a lot for 6 year old sourced whiskey, but at least the bottle is interesting. You'd think I would want a bottle just for the name, but I passed.

[squire]

Yes it's a very unique bottle I just wish they'd placed as much emphasis on the contents.

[Hop]

Yes it's a very unique bottle I just wish they'd placed as much emphasis on the contents.

Have you sampled it? Just wondering. I passed since I've never heard of it and am sticking with bourbons I've had a chance to sample or have heard good things about from members with similar tastes.

[GaryT]

From what I'm reading about it, price is far too proud for me to buy blind.

[squire]

No Hop I haven't tried it (under that brand) and if it were available locally at half the price still wouldn't bother because I already know what 6 year old 90 proof Kentucky Bourbon tastes like and I don't collect bottles.

Has anybody else noticed this recent trend of 6yr/90ish proof Bourbons the NDPs are putting out? What, did Heaven Hill have a fire sale?

[Enoch]

I tried this at Whiskey Fair at the Masterson's table and not bad for a 6 year bourbon but overpriced. FRYL is about 6 years and much cheaper for example. I wished they had continued the Masterson's line at 10 years instead.

[tanstaafl2]

From what I'm reading about it, price is far too proud for me to buy blind.

Seems to be spreading across town.

Bottle is interesting with the apparent intention to give it an old time feel. But otherwise way too spendy for me to give it more than a cursory once over.

[BourbonGuy]

This was selling out at a local store. They could not keep it on the shelf. I wondered why and purchased a bottle, $45. I'm disappointed. Not sure about the hype. It is smooth. Very smooth with no burn.

In my mind, not a good thing. I like a bit of a bite. Thin mouthfeel and Honey comes through for me, not the chesnuts that are on the label. It is a bit differnt. But what do I know.

The corking is a nice marketing idea, but a I don't care for it. Maybe in the old days when they grabbed the cork with their teeth. I will not be buying another bottle at that price. I could have purchased E.H. Taylor small batch for $38.

I should have done that instead.

Edited December 17, 2014 by BourbonGuy

[tanstaafl2]

This was selling out at a local store. They could not keep it on the shelf. I wondered why and purchased a bottle, $45. I'm disappointed. Not sure about the hype. It is smooth. Very smooth with no burn.

In my mind, not a good thing. I like a bit of a bite. Thin mouthfeel and Honey comes through for me, not the chesnuts that are on the label. It is a bit differnt. But what do I know.

The corking is a nice marketing idea, but a I don't care for it. Maybe in the old days when they grabbed the cork with their teeth. I will not be buying another bottle at that price. I could have purchased E.H. Taylor small batch for $38.

I should have done that instead.

I think the old time look and feel of the bottle attracts a certain market that wants their bourbon to look good without much regard for how it tastes since it will all taste the same mixed with coca cola...

Which is no doubt why they went to the trouble to create the bottle in the first place. Not the first time this company has done that as they are also responsible for the fairly swanky looking Kirk & Sweeney rum bottle. It is not a bad little rum, just overpriced, much like Bib & Tucker is.

[BourbonGuy]

I will bring this out at Christmas and it will be hailed a wonderful bourbon. No bite. To many, that is what qualifies as good bourbon.

[P&MLiquorsEric]

It does not list state of distillation nor does is claim to be a Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey on the bottle.

I think we all know it's source.

Nice looking bottle.

[squire]

Eric gets a gold star.

[Harry in WashDC]

I noticed in tanstaafl2's photo that it costs the same in Georgia as the Blanton's sitting next to it costs in Virginia. Guess which one I'd pick up if their prices are that close.

[BourbonGuy]

It does not list state of distillation nor does is claim to be a Kentucky Straight Bourbon Whiskey on the bottle.

I think we all know it's source.

Nice looking bottle.

[tanstaafl2]

Let me ask a question. I get your point, it is MPG. That I understand. The other bourbon that seemed to be hot was Smugglers Notch, Vermont whiskey. FIgured that must be sourced too.

But does that mean it is bad bourbon? Smooth Amber is MPG and Bulliet too (I think). I took a shot based on the fact that they couldn't keep it on the shelf. In retrospect, would I have prefered Blanton's, E.H.Taylor, Rare Breed or any of the many others in the price range ($45). Yes. But would you automatically dismiss a sourced bourbon?

[P&MLiquorsEric]

I have no problem with MGP whiskey. We are awaiting two barrels of smooth ambler. They will be 8 years old, barrel strength and retail for $15 less than Bib & Tucker.

We sell bib & tucker along with a bunch of other MGP sourced whiskeys. They can be very good.

Repackaging a distilled product in a fancy package with a fabricated story is very common in the booze business. The average consumer equates price with quality. I try not to let the same factors influence me.

[t44tq]

Bulleit bourbon is Four Roses sourced still, isn't it?

I didn't think Bib and Tucker was very good. The SOAS selections are better for less money. Smooth, but not really distinctive or exceptional in any way.

[P&MLiquorsEric]

Diagio and Four Roses are ending or have ended the contract. Supposedly diagio has enough sourced bourbon aging at SW to survive until the new distillery is online.

[t44tq]

Diagio and Four Roses are ending or have ended the contract. Supposedly diagio has enough sourced bourbon aging at SW to survive until the new distillery is online.

I know that part, but does that mean Diageo has enough Four Roses bourbon to continue selling Bulleit as-is until their distillery has enough aged product to sell, or are they already sourcing other bourbon?

Does that mean my Bulleit bourbon will be worth something, as it is the "original" Four-Roses stuff? :grin:

[oke&coke]

I know that part, but does that mean Diageo has enough Four Roses bourbon to continue selling Bulleit as-is until their distillery has enough aged product to sell, or are they already sourcing other bourbon?

Does that mean my Bulleit bourbon will be worth something, as it is the "original" Four-Roses stuff? :grin:

Yes. It's worth drinking.

[P&MLiquorsEric]

I know that part, but does that mean Diageo has enough Four Roses bourbon to continue selling Bulleit as-is until their distillery has enough aged product to sell, or are they already sourcing other bourbon?

Does that mean my Bulleit bourbon will be worth something, as it is the "original" Four-Roses stuff? :grin:

No one will say. Diagio has been buying from nearly every source for years. Unless someone from diagio spills the beans about batch numbers etc, we will never know.

It's safe to say the regular Bulleit contains bourbon from a number of sources and has for some time. The early batches of 10 year were bottled at 4R and were 100% four roses.

[squire]

But would you automatically dismiss a sourced bourbon?

I would if it's overpriced.

[t44tq]

Yes. It's worth drinking.

I prefer Four Roses by a large margin. The Bulleit will probably sit there, unopened, unless I have a desire to drink bourbon and Coke or some other kind of mixed drink.

[t44tq]

No one will say. Diagio has been buying from nearly every source for years. Unless someone from diagio spills the beans about batch numbers etc, we will never know.

It's safe to say the regular Bulleit contains bourbon from a number of sources and has for some time. The early batches of 10 year were bottled at 4R and were 100% four roses.

Thanks, Eric. That explains a lot- I wondered why Bulleit doesn't really taste like Four Roses, but I never drank the 10 yr. stuff.