Value of 700ml compared to 750ml

[greatgoo]

What is everyone's thoughts on the value of 700ml bottles compared to 750ml bottles? Does a 750ml bottle hold more value than a 700ml bottle? A good example would be four roses bottles from overseas compared to the 750ml bottles in the states.

[Richnimrod]

What is everyone's thoughts on the value of 700ml bottles compared to 750ml bottles? Does a 750ml bottle hold more value than a 700ml bottle? A good example would be four roses bottles from overseas compared to the 750ml bottles in the states.

If they can be had for 93.33% of the price of a 750, they're about the same; if more, then a percentile rip-off. If less, then a percentile bargain!

[petrel800]

700ml Price of 700

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750ml Price of 750

Hopefully that helps. As long as you have 3 of them you can solve for the 4th. Cross multiply then divide to solve for X.

Don't forget to convert the currency.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=currency+converter

All kidding aside, you're likely not going to get anything you can get here for less than you can get it here. Costs a lot of money to ship it back and forth.

There are brands overseas that you cannot get here, some good, some bad. I suggest that you run a google search with your question and straightbourbon.com and you'll be able to see a ton of threads on what is available elsewhere.

[bin31z]

I've compared my 700ml bottles from overseas to similar bottles in us, for example four roses single barrel limited. Even though it's supposed to be 700 ml, I can't tell the volume difference by eyeball. So I have a sneaking suspicion that bourbon producers just fill up all bottles the same and call the overseas ones 700 ml for legal purposes. Maybe it's too troublesome to reset machines for diff volumes. Also the fill levels on the bottles might look strange with less liquid.

[Richnimrod]

I've compared my 700ml bottles from overseas to similar bottles in us, for example four roses single barrel limited. Even though it's supposed to be 700 ml, I can't tell the volume difference by eyeball. So I have a sneaking suspicion that bourbon producers just fill up all bottles the same and call the overseas ones 700 ml for legal purposes. Maybe it's too troublesome to reset machines for diff volumes. Also the fill levels on the bottles might look strange with less liquid.

Hmmmmm, if this is the case, then the '700's', if priced the same on a per-ounce basis, but only charging for 700, while delivering 750... WELL THEN: Bargain Time, eh?

Of course, if one needs to travel overseas to obtain said bargains, the flights would have to be REALLY Inexpensive for the bottom line to be advantageous.

[callmeox]

I don't think that the OP was looking for a formula on price per ml between US and international bottle sizes...

My angle? I have a large handful of WT12 split labels in my bunker and one is a 700ml edition. The last few times I've had a hankering to open a split label I've reached past the 700 to grab a 750.

IMO, the 700's are more rare in these parts so I'll drink the more common ones for now.

[Quantum]

I don't think that the OP was looking for a formula on price per ml between US and international bottle sizes...

You mean he was asking about it from an inventory/storage perspective? That is a great question, and there are a few different approaches.

If if you are trying to keep your inventory costs down, you will want to go with a smaller sized bottle, that you replace often. If your liquor store is very far outside of your normal commute, this drives up your ordering costs. Then it would be worth it to carry the higher inventory cost of a larger bottle, that you do not have to purchase as often.

If if you are facing storage constraints, you can usually carry more ml per square inch with a higher volume bottle. Having a lower number of larger bottles might increase the total volume you can store, but it will reduce the number of different selections you can carry at any given point in time.

[MauiSon]

I've compared my 700ml bottles from overseas to similar bottles in us, for example four roses single barrel limited. Even though it's supposed to be 700 ml, I can't tell the volume difference by eyeball. So I have a sneaking suspicion that bourbon producers just fill up all bottles the same and call the overseas ones 700 ml for legal purposes. Maybe it's too troublesome to reset machines for diff volumes. Also the fill levels on the bottles might look strange with less liquid.

Well, my bottles from Four Roses have the capacity molded into the bottom, '750ml'. Don't the 700ml bottles have '700ml' molded into the glass? If so (as I would assume), then eyeballing, like sneaking suspicion, is useless.

[greatgoo]

The question I proposed was more geared towards when you trade bottles with someone but all these different responses are interesting.

To put it in full context. I was going to do a local trade. I was going to trade my lot b for his 4R 125th anniversary. When I learned it was a 700ml bottle instead of a 750ml bottle I backed out. Now I'm kicking myself for passing on it.

Edited February 26, 2015 by greatgoo

[amg]

Well, a 700mL bottle is worth 93.3% of a 750mL one to me.

[nd2005]

The question I proposed was more geared towards when you trade bottles with someone but all these different responses are interesting.

To put it in full context. I was going to do a local trade. I was going to trade my lot b for his 4R 125th anniversary. When I learned it was a 700ml bottle instead of a 750ml bottle I backed out. Now I'm kicking myself for passing on it.

There was this weird thing going around of some people thinking the 700 ml bottles of 4R 125th were a "different" blend and inferior. I think it's crazy. I'd trade a lot B for a 700ml 125th in a heartbeat.

[tanstaafl2]

There was this weird thing going around of some people thinking the 700 ml bottles of 4R 125th were a "different" blend and inferior. I think it's crazy. I'd trade a lot B for a 700ml 125th in a heartbeat.

Although I am reminded of the story Jim Rutledge told during a barrel selection (The GBS barrel perhaps?) about the whiskey that went into the 2011 SBLE (a much discussed and unusual OBSQ). Of course that is a single barrel so it is a bit different. But suffice it to say that the barrels intended for the US were different than the ones intended for Europe and somehow the two got switched. Or words to that effect.

We were at a barrel pick at the time after all and details tend to get hazy as the tasting progresses!

[swhitworth77]

The question I proposed was more geared towards when you trade bottles with someone but all these different responses are interesting.

To put it in full context. I was going to do a local trade. I was going to trade my lot b for his 4R 125th anniversary. When I learned it was a 700ml bottle instead of a 750ml bottle I backed out. Now I'm kicking myself for passing on it.

Wow this is crazy, I'm pretty sure I picked up where you left off. I just traded my lot-b to a guy in Ohio (Lakewood) for his 700 ml 4R 125th. He said he had a local deal that fell though and was now willing to ship. I have been searching for a 125th for a long time.

[amg]

The world of bourbon enthusiasts is smaller than we might think.

[fishnbowljoe]

I once ran across a store(s) that had somehow mistakenly been shipped a few cases of Japanese 700 ml bottles of WTRB 03-RB. Japanese writing on them, and complete with the cardboard tubes. The funny thing was, the 700 ml bottles were priced a couple of bucks higher than the regular domestic 750's. Kinda weird.

[Barrel_Proof]

BOTYs have such difficult choices to make.

I don't think that the OP was looking for a formula on price per ml between US and international bottle sizes...

My angle? I have a large handful of WT12 split labels in my bunker and one is a 700ml edition. The last few times I've had a hankering to open a split label I've reached past the 700 to grab a 750.

IMO, the 700's are more rare in these parts so I'll drink the more common ones for now.

[greatgoo]

Wow this is crazy, I'm pretty sure I picked up where you left off. I just traded my lot-b to a guy in Ohio (Lakewood) for his 700 ml 4R 125th. He said he had a local deal that fell though and was now willing to ship. I have been searching for a 125th for a long time.

Hahaha yep.

You interested in trading your 125th anniversary for a lot b? I think I'll find another. Probably not locally. The lot b for the 125th is a every even trade IMO.

Oh and you're welcome!

Edited February 28, 2015 by greatgoo

[Special Reserve]

I'd go on either side of the Lot B vs FR125 if I had multiples of one and none of the other. MRSP is a little lower for Lot B and FR125 should be a more difficult product to find but these differences are not that great.

[Richnimrod]

Just to add one more useless and meaningless opinion. ...I'd trade a 750 Lot B in an instant for a 700 4-R 125th; however I'd never trade for a Lot B, if I had to give away a 700 of 4-R 125th.

But, that's just because my taste buddies just LOVE the 4-R and only Like the Lot B. Nothing to do with availability or 'market value'.

[swhitworth77]

Hahaha yep.

You interested in trading your 125th anniversary for a lot b? I think I'll find another. Probably not locally. The lot b for the 125th is a every even trade IMO.

Oh and you're welcome!