Binny's no longer ships hard liquor

[weller_tex]

It's a sad day. I work in New Mexico 2-3 months out of the year and it was always nice to order some good whiskeys from Binny's. No longer. They have a disclaimer that due to UPS and FedEx regs they will no longer ship hard liquor. I would assume K&L will follow suit. This is so stupid..

[jeffrey r]

This certainly seems to be the trend these days. Probably just way more trouble than it is worth for these retailers once the shipping companies start grumbling, or the retailers hear from the authorities. Too bad, but no big surprise.

[weller_tex]

This certainly seems to be the trend these days. Probably just way more trouble than it is worth for these retailers once the shipping companies start grumbling, or the retailers hear from the authorities. Too bad, but no big surprise.

Yeah and to clarify, when I said it was stupid..I meant the stupid regulations, not Binny's.

[GaryT]

I wrote my legislator about the state regs against liquor shipments, and basically got back "Yeah, makes no sense, agree - but without a huge grassroots movement that makes a lot more noise than the distributor's lobbying arm - doubt it will change." And unfortunately, I think he was exactly right. What irks me is that the same folks who proclaim to be for business and for less government don't see the contradiction when there's pretty much only one side lobbying (and donating).

[kjbeggs]

I saw that today, while browsing their site. Of course, they never shipped to Texas anyway. They are great about setting thing aside until I make a trip up there to visit the wife's family though.

[smokinjoe]

The shipping operation at Binny's is not a small operation. It's waaay more than a couple of folks packing a few bottles a day. This will have an impact in a number of areas.

[tanstaafl2]

Seems like opening a "boutique" shipping operation that does nothing but ship "hard liquor" might be a viable business. Set up a few key locations around the country and feed it into UPS/FedEx without bothering to tell them what it is and off you go!

Anybody got a spare couple million they want to invest... :grin:

[Thig]

I have noticed lately some of the stores tell you that title passes when they turn it over to the shipper and you are responsible for making sure nothing illegal is taking place. I know UPS and FedEx still deliver to Georgia.

[johnnyflake45]

If this becomes the norm, in the near future, the liquor sales industry will suffer dramatic losses of revenue. The only way they will be able to exist will be by having to put hundreds of new B&M Locations in many new states (Big/Small Cities). This will be expensive, therefore, liquor will also become far more expensive! Also the distilleries will have to start distributing, in states that they do not, at this time.

[Master Distiller]

Liquor Retailers must obtain a special license to ship liquor, there is special packaging they must use, and they must inform the carrier of the contents because the service is different and they carrier is only allowed to leave the package with the purchaser, must make sure they are of age, and a signature is required. They will not leave it on a door step. They(seller) must also obide by the states laws theyre shipping to and many states dont allow shipment of hard liquor via mail.

[unclebunk]

I mentioned in another thread that my favorite tequila source in California will no longer ship to Illinois but will ship to neighboring Wisconsin where I can still pick it up at my cousin's house. Wonder how long that will last before they stop shipping altogether. We are not talking about a big chain here but a three store operation and if you lose many customers like me who spend in excess of $1000 per year, you have to figure that adds up.

[johnnyflake45]

Liquor Retailers must obtain a special license to ship liquor, there is special packaging they must use, and they must inform the carrier of the contents because the service is different and they carrier is only allowed to leave the package with the purchaser, must make sure they are of age, and a signature is required. They will not leave it on a door step. They(seller) must also obide by the states laws theyre shipping to and many states dont allow shipment of hard liquor via mail.

I can only assume that you are referring to private carriers, as the USPS will not ship alcohol of any kind. It is not legal to ship alcohol via USPS, period! There is no license, of any kind, from anywhere, that allows you to do so! BTW, the USPS is now trying to get allowances to ship alcohol, beer, wine, liquor and so on, in order to improve their bottom line.

[unclebunk]

BTW, the USPS is now trying to get allowances to ship alcohol, beer, wine, liquor and so on, in order to improve their bottom line.

That would actually be great if they can pull it off.

[tanstaafl2]

I can only assume that you are referring to private carriers, as the USPS will not ship alcohol of any kind. It is not legal to ship alcohol via USPS, period! There is no license, of any kind, from anywhere, that allows you to do so! BTW, the USPS is now trying to get allowances to ship alcohol, beer, wine, liquor and so on, in order to improve their bottom line.

As long as they don't know about it. A lot of "olive oil" tends to be sent across the country via USPS...

[johnnyflake45]

As long as they don't know about it. A lot of "olive oil" tends to be sent across the country via USPS...

LOL! Yes, I have sent a lot of Olive Oil to my friends!

[dcbt]

Interesting tidbit here, the USPS wants to be able to ship booze. Government v Government.

http://consumerist.com/2015/08/18/the-u-s-postal-service-is-open-to-delivering-anything-to-raise-cash/

[Darwin]

I called K & L Wines in California today to see at what temperature it would be safe to ship to Phoenix. I was told it's illegal to ship spirits to Arizona even if the item is not sold in the state. Bummer!!! :hot:. I went from happy and excited to totally annoyed in just a few minutes.

[Harry in WashDC]

Here's a link discussing some legislation, introduced in July 2015 to remove the Prohibition Era ban on mailing distilled spirits. 'The Hill' is a newspaper for Congress.

http://thehill.com/regulation/249788-bill-would-end-usp-ban-on-shipping-booze

[squire]

Can't let the Postal Service suffer a competitive disadvantage now can we.

[bin31z]

How are we gonna get our Hhss???

[kjbeggs]

I'm all for the USPS being able to ship Liquor (knowing they are doing so), as long as they will insure the package and actually pay the claim.

Of course, that's not to stop them "breaking" your bottle of GTS, and paying out your claim at retail, when there's no way you can replace it at that price.

(Hmmmm- note to self- speak to wife's cousin who is a mailman...)