Best Value Right Now?

[tanstaafl2]

23 minutes ago, Louisiana said:

I think the value of ECBP is even bigger now.

It will be HH's only 12 year going forward for now.

It's available, high quality, barrel proof, and HH is saying there will be more.

And price. I've paid between $45-$55. Last bottle being $51.

Just sayin!

I certainly hope we don't see a significant increase in price (relative to the differences in different parts of the country of course. It is pushing past $60 around Atlanta as I recall the last time a batch appeared) whether that be from the distillery, the distributor or retail. But I would be remiss if I said I didn't think it would be likely to go up pretty steadily with each release. Like EC12, may she rest in peace, it is probably priced rather low in the current market for what it is, an excellent 12yo BP whiskey, at a price in the $50's range.

Only time will tell I suppose.

Edited January 26, 2016 by tanstaafl2

[jeffrey r]

46 minutes ago, Louisiana said:

I think the value of ECBP is even bigger now.

It will be HH's only 12 year going forward for now.

It's available, high quality, barrel proof, and HH is saying there will be more.

And price. I've paid between $45-$55. Last bottle being $51.

Just sayin!

You're preaching to the choir with the value of ECBP, but unfortunately it is hardly "available", and I'll believe any sort of wider release if/when I see it.  Bottom line, since ECBP was first released about 3 years ago, I've seen in the wild 3 bottles of batch 1 (bought 2), 3 bottles of batch 3 (bought 2), and 1 bottle of batch 9 (bought it of course). 

But yes, it now becomes even more of a value, and more valuable, and hopefully it becomes a bit more available.

Edited January 26, 2016 by jeffrey r

[Louisiana]

Yes availability does vary with all locations.

Just hope that HH doesn't sacrifice quality to make more barrel proof.

I don't know this, but many on SB including myself feel that honey barrels are why the ECBP has been so damn good.

[Swoboda]

1 minute ago, Louisiana said:

Just hope that HH doesn't sacrifice quality to make more barrel proof.

I don't know this, but many on SB including myself feel that honey barrels are why the ECBP has been so damn good.

My original thought on the EC12 change was that quality has to be affected for both products and that HH will make more money because they will inevitably be selling diverted EC12 juice at the ECBP price.  I suppose we can hope both products will somehow be better for it . . . ? 

[flahute]

2 hours ago, tanstaafl2 said:

I certainly hope we don't see a significant increase in price (relative to the differences in different parts of the country of course. It is pushing past $60 around Atlanta as I recall the last time a batch appeared) whether that be from the distillery, the distributor or retail. But I would be remiss if I said I didn't think it would be likely to go up pretty steadily with each release. Like EC12, may she rest in peace, it is probably priced rather low in the current market for what it is, an excellent 12yo BP whiskey, at a price in the $50's range.

Only time will tell I suppose.

Funny you bring this up today as ECBP just went up in price $3 at some point in the past couple days since I last checked. It's now at 59.99. (It had been at 56.99 for most of last year).

I'm seeing price hikes pretty much across the board for all distilleries across a lot of (but not all) of their products.

[tanstaafl2]

34 minutes ago, flahute said:

Funny you bring this up today as ECBP just went up in price $3 at some point in the past couple days since I last checked. It's now at 59.99. (It had been at 56.99 for most of last year).

I'm seeing price hikes pretty much across the board for all distilleries across a lot of (but not all) of their products.

It is almost inevitable. Pikesville, a 6yo rye at 110 proof from the same distillery came out of the gate locally around $50 or so. Hard to imagine they will keep putting a 12yo barrel proof whiskey out at the same price. I know it is rye versus bourbon and that there is a lot more stock available on the bourbon side but it just doesn't seem likely it can remain in that same price range given where everything else is moving in cost.

Next up for a price adjustment will be Henry McKenna. 10yo single barrel at 100 proof for around $30? Doesn't seem likely for long! Something has gotta give...

[ebo]

Hands down.... OGD Bonded.

[b1gcountry]

10 hours ago, starhopper said:

Not even Old Grand Dad BIB 100 or ol' Elmer T.????

I did a bad job explaining myself. What I mean is that I don't worry about price at all if it is under $35 or so. Whether it is $12 or $35 I consider it replaceable (assuming it is available enough to be replaced). I'm just as likely to reach for OGD as 4RSB, and not worry about the cost of the pour either way.

I do think differently when it comes to buying stuff for the bunker,  but for something I'm opening right away, I will buy what I want. 

Edited January 27, 2016 by b1gcountry

[squire]

13 hours ago, b1gcountry said:

At the point I'm at in life, I drink so little and make enough that anything under $35-40 doesn't really tip the scales for me.

I understand the sentiment.  30 years ago we literally got what we paid for, as in more age, higher proof, that sort of thing, not so much now.  High price, beautifully packaged and colorfully labeled stuff doesn't mean the contents are actually any better than the standard 4 year old 86 proof goods we got back in the 70s.  Perhaps not even their equal.

So after decades of being an avid consumer palate rather than price is my guideline.

 

[jeff]

Any Heaven Hill BIB is a great value, IMO.

[Swoboda]

1 hour ago, jeff said:

Any Heaven Hill BIB is a great value, IMO.

Yes!  We've enjoyed these:

Evan Williams BIB (White Label $12)

Henry McKenna BIB 10YO (still a great value at $28)

 . . . and in a similar vein from HH, Virgin 101 ($12) and Old Ezra 101 7YO ($17).

[jeff]

4 minutes ago, Swoboda said:

Yes!  We've enjoyed these:

Evan Williams BIB (White Label $12)

Henry McKenna BIB 10YO (still a great value at $28)

 . . . and in a similar vein from HH, Virgin 101 ($12) and Old Ezra 101 7YO ($17).

Those are all great! JTS Brown BIB is a particular favorite of mine!

[fishnbowljoe]

I've been waiting a while before posting my thoughts here. One reason is because threads like this always seem a bit subjective to me. I've posted responses to topics like this in what I think is a humorous and thoughtful way, while leaving some room for speculation.  A couple of examples: Your favorite glass? The one in my hand. Your favorite bourbon? The one in my glass. See where I'm going with this? 

Some people might think a good value might be a mid/lower shelf bourbon at a very low price. Others might think it's a little higher end bourbon at a reasonable price. I agree that the HH BIB's for under $15.00 are a good value. I also think that Stagg Jr. for under $50.00 is a good value. And so on, and so on…..

So, my answer is: Whatever you like, at whatever price you can afford, or think is fairly reasonable.  Simple as that. It's all good! 

 

Cheers! Joe

[bullitt]

29 minutes ago, fishnbowljoe said:

So, my answer is: Whatever you like, at whatever price you can afford, or think is fairly reasonable.  Simple as that. It's all good! 

Cheers! Joe

Nicely put.

[Special Reserve]

14 hours ago, fishnbowljoe said:

I've been waiting a while before posting my thoughts here. One reason is because threads like this always seem a bit subjective to me. I've posted responses to topics like this in what I think is a humorous and thoughtful way, while leaving some room for speculation.  A couple of examples: Your favorite glass? The one in my hand. Your favorite bourbon? The one in my glass. See where I'm going with this? 

Some people might think a good value might be a mid/lower shelf bourbon at a very low price. Others might think it's a little higher end bourbon at a reasonable price. I agree that the HH BIB's for under $15.00 are a good value. I also think that Stagg Jr. for under $50.00 is a good value. And so on, and so on…..

So, my answer is: Whatever you like, at whatever price you can afford, or think is fairly reasonable.  Simple as that. It's all good! 

 

Cheers! Joe

I was thinking that the best value is 4RSB.  A lovely pour at about $40.

[MeAndMyWhiskey]

On 1/25/2016, 12:24:55, Beer Taster America said:

Glad to see this thread is still going.

Last two 1.75 liter bottles I've purchased have been Evan Williams Black. I can buy it for $15.49 at the nearby mega liquor store chain.  I've been real happy with EW black. Its a little rough around the edges, but its damn good whiskey.  I can't  find a better value, and will probably keep buying tnose 1.75 liter bottles for the foreseeable future.

On a trip recently I too came across a handle of Evan Williams Black for a similar price. It is hard to beat at that price for a "card game" bourbon! 

[smokinjoe]

1 hour ago, MeAndMyWhiskey said:

On a trip recently I too came across a handle of Evan Williams Black for a similar price. It is hard to beat at that price for a "card game" bourbon! 

Great term, "Card Game Bourbon".    I know exactly what you mean.  Neighborhood buddies and I had a running Thursday night game for over 15 years, where EWB or similar bourbon was the bottle of the night.  Went very well on those nights. 

[OldDrinker1978]

For me (here in Germany) the best value pours are

WT101 8 Year

FRSB

WT101 

Buffalo Trace

EW BIB 

Best value in Barrel Proof sure is Rare Breed and ECBP. I'd also say Blanton's Straight from the barrel but you guys in the US can't get that one.

[tanstaafl2]

3 minutes ago, OldDrinker1978 said:

For me (here in Germany) the best value pours are

WT101 8 Year

FRSB

WT101 

Buffalo Trace

EW BIB 

Best value in Barrel Proof sure is Rare Breed and ECBP. I'd also say Blanton's Straight from the barrel but you guys in the US can't get that one.

Can't get 8yo WT101 either so just rub it in why don't you!

Then again we have RR "single barrel small batch" 110 proof that is allegedly 8-9yo so I guess we will have to make do with that. I am not sure how much of that crosses the pond.