Anyone drink OGD80?

[Flyfish]

In the OGD rumors thread I posted about my local merchant being out of BIB but having plenty of 80. I don't recall ever buying 80 because the BIB and 114 are such incredible values for only a couple dollars more. But somebody must find the 80 attractive just as there is a market for 4RYL and others. Do any of you enjoy OGD80 on a fairly regular basis?

[squire]

To answer the question yes I have but not regularly or even in quite some time.  A few years back I wandered into the local to find the shelves bare of OGD except for some 80 proof so it was one of those 'it was there' moments.  I found it as expected, a slightly diminished version of the BIB but a decent enough mixer which is not faint praise.

[VAGentleman]

I wasn't a big fan of the 86 proof version so I doubt I'd like the new 80 proof one

[meadeweber]

On 10/4/2016 at 8:59 AM, Flyfish said:

In the OGD rumors thread I posted about my local merchant being out of BIB but having plenty of 80. I don't recall ever buying 80 because the BIB and 114 are such incredible values for only a couple dollars more. But somebody must find the 80 attractive just as there is a market for 4RYL and others. Do any of you enjoy OGD80 on a fairly regular basis?

I'm pretty sure that "somebody" is not a member of Straight Bourbon.  I can't see anyone here drinking the 80 proof instead of BiB or 114.  The difference with 4RYL is that it is a different product (blend) than the SmB and the SB. 

[jsrudd]

I never liked the 86 proof version and haven't thought to try new 80 proof version. 

[BDanner]

I haven't tried it, but have been curious. As far as BIB vs Standard versions,  I do not care for EW Black in the least, but the EWBIB is a staple in my bar. 

Edited October 6, 2016 by BDanner

[Swoboda]

No, but I'm going to buy a half pint the next time I see one.  I'll take it tailgating or fishing.   Sitting here sipping on OGDBIB and thinking it can't be all that bad.

[BillP]

I found an OGD BIB in the 1 liter for $22.99. I know the regular OGD is less, but the BIB is way better. 

Bill

[ethangsmith]

I drink it now and then. My wife really enjoys it a lot. We both find it better than the others in that same bracket (Four Roses yellow label, Evan Williams, Jim Beam white label, etc....). It's certainly a muted version of the BIB, but it still has all the characteristics of OGD. It's great for when you don't want something as strong.

[musekatcher]

On 12/23/2016 at 7:59 PM, BillP said:

I found an OGD BIB in the 1 liter for $22.99. I know the regular OGD is less, but the BIB is way better. 

Bill

 

+1, I pay $23 for 750ml btw. 

[MeAndMyWhiskey]

I've not had the 80 and only bought the 86 once. I had it for a camping trip and found it a very serviceable sipper that had those orange spice notes I enjoy in OGD, but just muted.  I've been afraid 80 will be too muted. But, truth be told, I haven't had the 80 yet, so can't judge.

 

The 114 is at the high end of 114's value window here in Michigan if you ask me (it's $32, which has to be close to the max I think 114 is worth). But half-gallons of OGD BIB remain a great value in Michigan in that the State minimum price for a half-gallon price translates to a little over $18 per 750 mL, compared to $27.99 for an actual 750mL bottle of OGD BIB.

[ratcheer]

I was fine with OGD as long as they maintained 86 proof, but I've not bought a bottle since they reduced it to 80. Luckily for me, my state ABC has finally started carrying the BiB. But unfortunately, they are charging around $26 for it. Up until a couple of years ago, I could buy the 86 for $11.

 

Tim

[Limegoldconvertible68]

How big of a seller is the Old Grand Dad line of product?  Everytime I buy a bottle of OGD BIB the store clerk comments about how he just doesn't see people drink this like they did back in the day. Another store had cases of OGD 114 stacked up and I commented how he probably has the biggest stash of it left since its being discontinued. He responded buying saying it was no wonder because it doesn't sell. Based on my admittedly small sampling size how can Beams stock of this mash bill be dwindling?

[flahute]

1 hour ago, Limegoldconvertible68 said:

How big of a seller is the Old Grand Dad line of product?  Everytime I buy a bottle of OGD BIB the store clerk comments about how he just doesn't see people drink this like they did back in the day. Another store had cases of OGD 114 stacked up and I commented how he probably has the biggest stash of it left since its being discontinued. He responded buying saying it was no wonder because it doesn't sell. Based on my admittedly small sampling size how can Beams stock of this mash bill be dwindling?

1) a lot of people buy Basil's and they need more stock for that. 2) The premiumization mandate means that they want to sell more Basil at the higher price point and less OGD at the budget price point.

[musekatcher]

On 12/27/2016 at 0:50 PM, flahute said:

1) a lot of people buy Basil's and they need more stock for that. 2) The premiumization mandate means that they want to sell more Basil at the higher price point and less OGD at the budget price point.

 

If we assume these three are all related (OGD80, OGDBIB, OGD114), they seem to be retailing around $13, $23, $30.  Considering the proof, the best deal per ounce of what came out of the barrel is the OGD80, the least deal per ounce of what came out of the barrel is OGD114.  I always like higher proofs, but I'm on a lower proof tear right now with my palette appropriately calibrated, I may just give OGD80 a try with no risk at $13.  As far as BH (at 80 proof), does it resemble OGD80?   

[flahute]

12 minutes ago, musekatcher said:

 

If we assume these three are all related (OGD80, OGDBIB, OGD114), they seem to be retailing around $13, $23, $30.  Considering the proof, the best deal per ounce of what came out of the barrel is the OGD80, the least deal per ounce of what came out of the barrel is OGD114.  I always like higher proofs, but I'm on a lower proof tear right now with my palette appropriately calibrated, I may just give OGD80 a try with no risk at $13.  As far as BH (at 80 proof), does it resemble OGD80?   

I don't know as I've never tried the 80 proof OGD. As you say, there's no risk in plunking down $13. The OGD80 is going to be a good deal younger than the Basil's so that's the primary difference you'll notice. If it ends up being something you don't like you can simply vat it with OGD114 as a way to bring the proof down.

[BDanner]

On 12/27/2016 at 1:50 PM, flahute said:

1) a lot of people buy Basil's and they need more stock for that. 2) The premiumization mandate means that they want to sell more Basil at the higher price point and less OGD at the budget price point.

 

You are right about the OGD114 heading to Basil Hayden stock. While BH shares a mashbill with ALL OGD, the OGD114 goes into the barrel at the same proof as the BH. So the same barrels that end up in OGD114 can also end up in BH (based on age and warehouse placement, etc), which would explain why OGD114 is the one on the chopping block and not the OGD 80 or OGD BIB. All that being said, the reason I've never tried OGD 80 is that it's around $17 here, which puts it a little higher that EW BIB. 

Edited January 14, 2017 by BDanner

[musekatcher]

On 1/14/2017 at 11:26 AM, flahute said:

I don't know as I've never tried the 80 proof OGD. As you say, there's no risk in plunking down $13. The OGD80 is going to be a good deal younger than the Basil's so that's the primary difference you'll notice. If it ends up being something you don't like you can simply vat it with OGD114 as a way to bring the proof down.

 

Enjoyed some BH tonite, and it was a surprise.  It has much more flavor than any other 80 proof I've had.  Right off the bat, I was impressed.  It was a gift, otherwise I'd never spend that much on an 80 proof.