All Labels Should Have DSP Numbers

[PaulO]

This is just my opinion.  

When I started to get into the hobby, my first big revelation was - there are many brands that don't distill anything themselves.  I think it's ok that there are brands of sourced whiskey.  I recently bought some Dickel Rye distilled in Indiana.  I feel like that is on the up and up.  There are some others that don't try to pretend.

 

On the other hand, I saw a tv show on PBS.  This lady named Darley travels to different vacation places.  She was in Bardstown, at a distillery.  They showed her: mash fermenting, the still, barrels aging.  At the end they gave her a sample, poured from the old familiar bong shaped bottle (no disclaimer)!

 

Also we have the Pappy hysteria.  If you have some old enough bottles, maybe they are from Stitzel Weller.  Maybe it's a mixture of SW and BT, maybe all BT?

 

There are plenty of examples.  I'm just saying put two or three numbers somewhere on the label.  It could go on back by the government warning.

[Richnimrod]

I would second that requirement.     BUT, since there seems to be very little enforcement of the existing rules, I wonder if this rule, if adopted, would really make a difference???

Also... "Bong-Shaped Bottle"????      What do it mean?????

[Saul_cooperstein]

I think this becomes interesting as unlike BIB, other bourbons can have product from multiple distilleries. So in that case would multiple DSPs be shown? If a bottle was 0.1% from an old bottle of stitzel weller stock and 99.9% from MGP wouldn't a label that showed DSP-16 be somewhat misleading. Would then need percentages from each distillery to make it not misleading which could get complicated with different batches potentially using different percentages and therefore needing different labels. Etc

[Saul_cooperstein]

Another outcome could be reduced NDP bottling if distilleries did not want customers knowing who was bottling/selling their product.  I understand that many NDP bottles are produced with a non disclosure agreement between the distillery and the bottler/seller and could expect some of these to go away if the NDA was more important to the distiller than the incremental sales these types of relationships provide.  

[fishnbowljoe]

21 minutes ago, Richnimrod said:

"Bong-Shaped Bottle"????      What do it mean?????

 

Does Genie bottle ring a bell Rich? Or am I just "dreaming"? 

[Richnimrod]

1 hour ago, fishnbowljoe said:

 

Does Genie bottle ring a bell Rich? Or am I just "dreaming"? 

So... A 'bong-shaped bottle' loox like the one Barbara Eden came out of, in  puff of smoke, so many times on that old (and goofy) T-V show?

I was definitely in favor of the Genie in that bottle!    And, what a shape she appeared in... WOW! 

But, that shape of a bottle bears no resemblance to any I can put a finger on as representative of a brand attributed to a Bardstown distillery.     What am I missing????

[PaulO]

Have you seen Willett Pot Still bottle.  I'm not the first person to compare the shape to a water pipe.  That's been commented a lot before.  My point in the first place is the contents are sourced from somewhere, not distilled on the premises.

Joe, there was an I Dream Of Genie look alike bottle. It was one of the Beam decanters years ago.  

Saul, I know multiple sources and non disclosure agreements make it seem complicated.  I'm all for transparency.  

I'm a big fan of bottled in bond. 

[jsrudd]

14 hours ago, PaulO said:

Also we have the Pappy hysteria.  If you have some old enough bottles, maybe they are from Stitzel Weller.  Maybe it's a mixture of SW and BT, maybe all BT?

Especially considering that the PVW brand was created to sell left of S-W. Nowadays, there really shouldn't be a large price difference between PVW and WLW. 

 

I'm not sure, however, that putting a DSP number on the back would in anyway correct this problem. 

Edited November 29, 2016 by jsrudd

[Flyfish]

I can hear even more people making the claim that "It's just like....See it has the same mash bill and is distilled in exactly the same place. "

[Josh]

This is a good idea. More information is always good.