Needing professional advice...

[Kepler]

4 hours ago, thebrother said:

When somebody uses the acronym “sb” ..... how do I know when it’s “small batch” or “single barrel”?

 

example. The Elijah Craig that faceplant suggested. 

 

4 hours ago, DCFan said:

SB = small batch

SiB = single barrel 

 

4 hours ago, Bourbon Fanatic said:

The way I've always known it, Sm is the acronym for small batch and SB is the acronym for single barrel.

 

Cheers!

 

None of these are entirely correct.  If you want to be absolutely clear when using these abbreviations, this is the standard you should use:

 

SmB = Small batch

SiB = Single barrel

 

The overuse of abbreviations on this site has always been borderline ridiculous and seems to be some kind of badge of honor or something.  I almost want to say that the use of code language makes members of the site feel like they're smart or something.  But who am I to say.

[DCFan]

6 hours ago, Kepler said:

The overuse of abbreviations on this site has always been borderline ridiculous and seems to be some kind of badge of honor or something.  I almost want to say that the use of code language makes members of the site feel like they're smart or something.  But who am I to say.

The abrreviations are kinda cool if you're used to dealing with acronyms like the feds are fond of using. Any excuse to exercise the brain to try and figure out what bourbon the poster is going on about, yanno?  And when you realize that if you move your cursor over the abbreviation it tells you the whole name then it's like wow! I won't tell you how long it took me to see there were other forums on the SB.com website besides this General Bourbon Discussion forum.  The premium bourbon forum is very good as are the ones for rum and politics. 

[thebrother]

All part of the learning curve.....I’m enjoying it really.  

[Bob_Loblaw]

I admit to using the google quite a bit early on with the acronym and word Bourbon. Worked pretty well. 

 

WRDO had me stumped for a long time. (Woodford Reserve Double Oaked)

[Paddy]

23 hours ago, Kepler said:

The overuse of abbreviations on this site has always been borderline ridiculous and seems to be some kind of badge of honor or something.  I almost want to say that the use of code language makes members of the site feel like they're smart or something.  But who am I to say.

I think it's funny that you've probably brought this up at least a 1/2 dozen times.  One might think you're even a bit PA (passive aggressive) in how you keep going there. 

 

But, who am I to say?

[flahute]

On 10/11/2017 at 9:24 PM, Kepler said:

I almost want to say that the use of code language makes members of the site feel like they're smart or something.  

I am smart. Thank you for noticing.

(You know I appreciate you - don't take it the wrong way.)

[Harry in WashDC]

On 10/12/2017 at 12:24 AM, Kepler said:

 

 

 

None of these are entirely correct.  If you want to be absolutely clear when using these abbreviations, this is the standard you should use:

 

SmB = Small batch

SiB = Single barrel

 

The overuse of abbreviations on this site has always been borderline ridiculous and seems to be some kind of badge of honor or something.  I almost want to say that the use of code language makes members of the site feel like they're smart or something.  But who am I to say.

no badge of honor.  badge of genetic laziness.  stopped using caps except for abbrev's for same reason. next i stop correcting spell errors. btw is 10am here time to get up. tough typing while lying down.  more later if i remember.  that's badge of genetic mind fahts.  i have lots of badges.  my smartass badge being a fave.  SA badge. caps for that.

 

edit -- i lied.  am not using caps because caps key hand is holding the pc.  can't hold shift while typing with pointer finger.

Edited October 13, 2017 by Harry in WashDC
to confess to lying while lying

[thebrother]

More information:

 

these are most empty...

 

In case this gives more insightful recommendations. 

 

And again...thank you all.  

[CardsandBourbon]

IDYBEIYDDM   -    I'll Drink Your Bourbon Even If You Don't Drink Mine

[The Black Tot]

Our next step into greater laziness is we're just going to think of what bourbon we mean and expect everyone to get it from the context of our sentences.

 

It's one of the powers of a bourbon zen master.

[CardsandBourbon]

15 minutes ago, The Black Tot said:

Our next step into greater laziness is we're just going to think of what bourbon we mean and expect everyone to get it from the context of our sentences.

 

It's one of the powers of a bourbon zen master.

You mean you can WLW actually tell what bourbon WLW a person is thinking about just WLW by talking to them? 

[The Black Tot]

LOL I  WLW L8TRZ

 

[Kepler]

On ‎10‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 11:22 PM, Paddy said:

I think it's funny that you've probably brought this up at least a 1/2 dozen times.  One might think you're even a bit PA (passive aggressive) in how you keep going there. 

I didn't realize anybody was counting.  I'm flattered.

[smokinjoe]

I'm switching over from drinking bourbon to rum completely.  Less work to type 3 letters than 7...Similarly, I refuse to muster the effort to explore agricole...

[thebrother]

none of this was intended when i made the comment about acronyms.  my apologies.  thank you all for the help...you know...earlier in the thread.

[gurgalunas]

On 10/11/2017 at 10:17 PM, thebrother said:

I'm from the kansas city area

missouri side.

I'm in KC, northwest near the airport.  If you get a list together of what you are looking for, let me know.  I stumble across buying opportunities that I don't always take advantage of.  I'd be happy to help in your search.  

 

Don't shoot me if I don't tell you where BTAC bottles land, unless they have more than one...

[gurgalunas]

A few that I notice missing in the existing collection are Elijah Craig Barrel Proof, Stag Jr, Weller 12, 1792, and obviously the BTAC offerings.  There are some really good 12 yr KCSiB store picks around town now too. 

 

Looking at his stock, it looks like the hard to find stuff is fairly represented (Blanton's x3, the KC limited edition, ETL, OWA, ORVW10), so he does have interest in that.  Maybe try to find some RHF, Parker's Heritage, older EC.  I know where a bottle of IW Harper 15 is on the shelf for $90- it's not a common find anymore.  Any of the CEHT special releases would fit the collection if you can find one, probably online.

[Kepler]

On ‎10‎/‎8‎/‎2017 at 3:59 PM, thebrother said:

 Hello. I am trying to purchase a very nice bourbon for my brother‘s 40th birthday. 

 

  I’ve been lurking here for the past few weeks  trying to get a basic education for myself, so I would know what questions to ask.

This weekend I went on a small recon mission to find out all of the Bourbons he currently owns. My thought process was, that I could ask all of you to help in deciphering what his  taste in bourbon was. Style of bourbon. Likes and dislikes. Based off of his current collection.   My goal would be to add 1 to 2 really nice Bourbons, that you all think he would like based on his collection. (And that he doesn’t already have) I’ll also be pairing this (or these) with a set of glassblower ben’s  customized medium glasses. 

Thinking the bourbon budget would be around 200-300.  Total gift under 500.  

 

Thank you all in advance for any and all help you can provide.  (I am in the Kansas City area if that helps with tracking things down.  I also know he loves old fashionds.)

 

thanks.  

 

On ‎10‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 7:56 AM, thebrother said:

Awesome responses. Thank you. 

I’m going to try to turn this into a search list and get “boots on the ground” quickly...otherwise I’ll be paying the online markups or not finding g them at all it sounds like.  

Thank you all and keep them coming if you’d like.  I really appreciate it.    

 

 

 

Well what did you end up getting him?? 

 

[gurgalunas]

22 hours ago, Kepler said:

 

Well what did you end up getting him?? 

 

Not sure if thebrother is checking in still, but I can answer that question.  He contacted me and we went back and forth on what his goals were.  There was a short list of "must-haves" and then the desire to puzzle the giftee with "how did you come up with this?".  Qualifications were: must be good bourbon, might be limited allocation, or limited distribution areas not readily available.  We used his current selections of bourbon as a guide on taste, got current Intel on what he was searching for desperately, and filled the blanks.  The gift-giving hasn't happened yet, so I'll refrain from posting a list in the unlikely event the post is discovered, but suffice it to say, and I'll quote thebrother's words, "He's going to SHIT!".   Simply, our hunting season was better than his...

 

I'll check back after the gift is given.  I've been promised a full report, maybe even video...

Edited December 9, 2017 by gurgalunas

[Kepler]

Awesome, thanks for letting us know, it's always cool to hear what the final verdict is. Thanks

[gurgalunas]

I just touched base with thebrother.  Sounds like the gift was a huge hit.  Lots of stories in 2 months of hunting for this gift, and I had a lot of fun helping and planning.

 

We discussed goals and made  a list shortly after the thread started.  One of the bottles that the giftee had been unsuccessfully looking for was Woodford Reserve Brandy Cask.  Found it online pretty reasonable, so he ordered it.  Had room in the shipping container, so he grabbed an OF1920 with no additional shipping.  A good start with a suprise bottle that had been on "the list", plus a great drinker.

 

I had an extra W12 that I offered up, since it was missing from the collection.  Again, not an easy find , and great bourbon.  An ECBP also left my cabinet, since I had a pretty deep bunker.  Great drinker that's not readily available.  A Jefferson Reserve was added as well.

 

To cover the limited distribution bottles, I had an Old Fitz BiB and arranged a HH6BiB (thanks Gorzo!).  Those would spark the "how in the hell did you get these?" curosity in the gift.  Remember, thebrother "knows nothing" about bourbon.  Obscure bottles (in the KC market) will baffle...

 

At this point, we had to stop and evaluate.  We had a lot of good "drinker" options still available, but the decision was to chase stuff that wasn't readily available in KC, or would be limited availability for the future.  Budget was bumped a bit...  A RHF was ordered, a bit over normal price, but it fit the bunker preference and was non-existent in the Kansas City market.  Little Book purchased due to uniqueness and being a 1st edition bottling.

 

BTAC and Pappy finally showed up in KC after Thanksgiving, and I texted thebrother to search his part of town.  I grabbed a Stagg for myself, and got a call reporting his hunt failure as I stopped in a LS in my small town (not known for prices or selection) since I was running early to pick up the kids from school.  The LS owner overheard my phone conversation and interrupted, saying "I've got a Stagg left if you want it".  Duh...  

 

To tweak the story a bit more, thebrother called the giftee (handle makes this confusing, since "thebrother" was buying for his brother, the giftee) on BTAC day.  Played dumb as the giftee said he was busy "hunting".  

 

"You don't hunt, wtf?"... knowing full well what he was talking about.  After describing the BTAC chase to the "newbie", and striking out except for a THH (he doesnt like rye, sold to a co-worker),  the giftee admitted failure, especially disappointed that a Stagg wasn't found.  Thebrother had to struggle to play the dumbass, knowing the scope of the success we had getting the unicorn at the top of the list.  What a perfectly played coup!

 

A custom, engraved, walnut case was built to hold the gift, complete with individual bags to hide the identity of each bottle.   With room for one more, a Stagg Jr was added to SxS with the GTS.

 

Final list was:

WR brandy finish

OF 1920

W12

ECBP

OFBiB

HH6BiB

Little Book 

Jefferson Reserve

Stagg Jr.

GT Stagg

 

From a text describing the gift opening...

 

He was overwhelmed.  I had sewn some bags for each of them, to hide their identity, and had him open them in a numbered order.  I tagged them from “least impressive to most impressive”. When he would reach in for a new bag he’d say,       ” no....rock hill farms?......no way.......Jefferson?....no way!” He got to the Stagg and felt it and said “it’s tall....antique collection?”..and kind of laughed knowing that was a long shot.  I laughed and said “you’re the one that told me it was nearly impossible to find ...even for people who knew what they were doing”.  Then he pulled it out.  And just looked at it and shook his head.   He was really overwhelmed.

 

I had a blast helping out, and would have paid admission to watch the gift opening.

[Canarse]

4 hours ago, gurgalunas said:

I just touched base with thebrother.  Sounds like the gift was a huge hit.  Lots of stories in 2 months of hunting for this gift, and I had a lot of fun helping and planning.

 

We discussed goals and made  a list shortly after the thread started.  One of the bottles that the giftee had been unsuccessfully looking for was Woodford Reserve Brandy Cask.  Found it online pretty reasonable, so he ordered it.  Had room in the shipping container, so he grabbed an OF1920 with no additional shipping.  A good start with a suprise bottle that had been on "the list", plus a great drinker.

 

I had an extra W12 that I offered up, since it was missing from the collection.  Again, not an easy find , and great bourbon.  An ECBP also left my cabinet, since I had a pretty deep bunker.  Great drinker that's not readily available.  A Jefferson Reserve was added as well.

 

To cover the limited distribution bottles, I had an Old Fitz BiB and arranged a HH6BiB (thanks Gorzo!).  Those would spark the "how in the hell did you get these?" curosity in the gift.  Remember, thebrother "knows nothing" about bourbon.  Obscure bottles (in the KC market) will baffle...

 

At this point, we had to stop and evaluate.  We had a lot of good "drinker" options still available, but the decision was to chase stuff that wasn't readily available in KC, or would be limited availability for the future.  Budget was bumped a bit...  A RHF was ordered, a bit over normal price, but it fit the bunker preference and was non-existent in the Kansas City market.  Little Book purchased due to uniqueness and being a 1st edition bottling.

 

BTAC and Pappy finally showed up in KC after Thanksgiving, and I texted thebrother to search his part of town.  I grabbed a Stagg for myself, and got a call reporting his hunt failure as I stopped in a LS in my small town (not known for prices or selection) since I was running early to pick up the kids from school.  The LS owner overheard my phone conversation and interrupted, saying "I've got a Stagg left if you want it".  Duh...  

 

To tweak the story a bit more, thebrother called the giftee (handle makes this confusing, since "thebrother" was buying for his brother, the giftee) on BTAC day.  Played dumb as the giftee said he was busy "hunting".  

 

"You don't hunt, wtf?"... knowing full well what he was talking about.  After describing the BTAC chase to the "newbie", and striking out except for a THH (he doesnt like rye, sold to a co-worker),  the giftee admitted failure, especially disappointed that a Stagg wasn't found.  Thebrother had to struggle to play the dumbass, knowing the scope of the success we had getting the unicorn at the top of the list.  What a perfectly played coup!

 

A custom, engraved, walnut case was built to hold the gift, complete with individual bags to hide the identity of each bottle.   With room for one more, a Stagg Jr was added to SxS with the GTS.

 

Final list was:

WR brandy finish

OF 1920

W12

ECBP

OFBiB

HH6BiB

Little Book 

Jefferson Reserve

Stagg Jr.

GT Stagg

 

From a text describing the gift opening...

 

He was overwhelmed.  I had sewn some bags for each of them, to hide their identity, and had him open them in a numbered order.  I tagged them from “least impressive to most impressive”. When he would reach in for a new bag he’d say,       ” no....rock hill farms?......no way.......Jefferson?....no way!” He got to the Stagg and felt it and said “it’s tall....antique collection?”..and kind of laughed knowing that was a long shot.  I laughed and said “you’re the one that told me it was nearly impossible to find ...even for people who knew what they were doing”.  Then he pulled it out.  And just looked at it and shook his head.   He was really overwhelmed.

 

I had a blast helping out, and would have paid admission to watch the gift opening.

What a great story!  And a great brother!!

[ATLien]

5 hours ago, Canarse said:

What a great story!  And a great brother!!

You're a good man Charlie Brown. 

[Dabbings]

Thanks for the follow up, great story!

 

Happy holidays

[cdcdguy]

A really good outcome when two very thoughtful people get together.