Bottled in Bond Day?

[CardsandBourbon]

At the top of my list of BIB's has to be CEHT.  The DN is also up there with me (no burned Wheatena on my palate).  I also really like the OF 1897 which is BIB.  I actually like it slightly better than the OF 1920.

[Harry in WashDC]

9 hours ago, cdcdguy said:

Good to know. Maybe I like rye some and should open up my world more? 3,4,5,6 are all HH fore sure unless someone can correct me. Thanks for the info on Barton. 

[Probably should be a private post, BUT ---]

 

A few months ago, I did a serious tasting of ryes.  Paddy encouraged me to do so as I expressed an unformed opinion that I hadn't seriously thought about them.  I WILL go look for the thread.  In the meantime, I can only encourage you to do some "research" of things other than Ritt, OO, Beam Rye, etc., much of which is only 51% rye.  IOW, yes, you should open up your world.  I opened up mine, and the only things that suffered are my wallet and my bunker space.

[PowderKeg]

10 hours ago, Richnimrod said:

...And, David Nicholson BIB, I believe.

Unfortunately I don't think DN1843 is a BiB anymore - at least the 4 bottles I brought with me from KY don't have a whisper of BiB on them, front, back, inside-out or upside-down.  Website makes no mention of it either (that I can find).

 

Must have suffered the same fate as EC12 - got shuffled to the back and then conveniently forgotten...

 

 

[smokinjoe]

22 minutes ago, PowderKeg said:

Unfortunately I don't think DN1843 is a BiB anymore - at least the 4 bottles I brought with me from KY don't have a whisper of BiB on them, front, back, inside-out or upside-down.  Website makes no mention of it either (that I can find).

 

Must have suffered the same fate as EC12 - got shuffled to the back and then conveniently forgotten...

 

 

Well, that DSP-KY16 got shuffled to the back and conveniently stayed there for about 2 decades!     They’re improving their label rotations, I guess...

[cdcdguy]

32 minutes ago, Harry in WashDC said:

[Probably should be a private post, BUT ---]

 

A few months ago, I did a serious tasting of ryes.  Paddy encouraged me to do so as I expressed an unformed opinion that I hadn't seriously thought about them.  I WILL go look for the thread.  In the meantime, I can only encourage you to do some "research" of things other than Ritt, OO, Beam Rye, etc., much of which is only 51% rye.  IOW, yes, you should open up your world.  I opened up mine, and the only things that suffered are my wallet and my bunker space.

 I have tried a couple different straight ryes and didn't like them. But I guess I like in some bourbon and didn't know it. The OGD BIB struck me as too much rye. Which was a shame since it tastes high quality.  I have always been scared off when rye  appears on a label.  I will open my mind more! For me I am not sure if my problem is the wallet or bunker space! 

[Jazz June]

34 minutes ago, PowderKeg said:

Unfortunately I don't think DN1843 is a BiB anymore - at least the 4 bottles I brought with me from KY don't have a whisper of BiB on them, front, back, inside-out or upside-down.  Website makes no mention of it either (that I can find).

 

Must have suffered the same fate as EC12 - got shuffled to the back and then conveniently forgotten...

 

 

The DN1843 I purchased last year was 100 proof, but no BiB indication. My understanding is that as a straight whiskey with no age statement, the primary BiB production requirement not really met by the product is that they can mix from different distilling seasons. The whole BiB designation is interesting; the requirements are not too high of a bar in that a number of products meet them anyway (especially the three 100 proof SiBs - 4R, RY 10, and RHF), so are the labeling requirements the issue or do marketers just not see the value in labeling something BiB?

 

I could see the disincentive to use the term if BiBs had stayed restricted to more value oriented products, but recent BiBs seem to be headed up the shelves (CEHT varieties, OF 1897, 1792). Either way, I greatly enjoy the BiB offerings I have been able to get and always like more transparency on the label. In that respect, a BiB designation would make me more likely to purchase a craft whiskey. The thread did inspire me to buy some JW Dant BiB for the first time. I think this may be the last BiB I can get reasonably nearby that I have not tried.

[PowderKeg]

1 hour ago, smokinjoe said:

Well, that DSP-KY16 got shuffled to the back and conveniently stayed there for about 2 decades!     They’re improving their label rotations, I guess...

He-he, I forgot about that little technical oops...  Wonder how lax they'll be on label updates once LuxRow starts bottling their own distillate...

[PowderKeg]

1 hour ago, Jazz June said:

... My understanding is that as a straight whiskey with no age statement, the primary BiB production requirement not really met by the product is that they can mix from different distilling seasons. The whole BiB designation is interesting; the requirements are not too high of a bar in that a number of products meet them anyway (especially the three 100 proof SiBs - 4R, RY 10, and RHF), so are the labeling requirements the issue or do marketers just not see the value in labeling something BiB?

 

I could see the disincentive to use the term if BiBs had stayed restricted to more value oriented products, but recent BiBs seem to be headed up the shelves (CEHT varieties, OF 1897, 1792). Either way, I greatly enjoy the BiB offerings I have been able to get and always like more transparency on the label. In that respect, a BiB designation would make me more likely to purchase...

Well two distictions actually - 1/1/1 (season/distiller/distillery), and 4 yr minimum (with straight requiring only 2 yr and NAS "technically" no less than 3 yr (funny how many craft ones forget that little technicality, or maybe they moved it to the fine print on the back and it kinda/sorta fell offffffffff....).  

 

And I've wondered the same thing about one of my favored anyday pours, OFsig at 100pf.  B-F has 80 & 86pf OF versions to mega-batch dump and water down any crappy barrels, so why not give OFsig a little more respect with a BiB note?

[flahute]

1 hour ago, PowderKeg said:

Well two distictions actually - 1/1/1 (season/distiller/distillery), and 4 yr minimum (with straight requiring only 2 yr and NAS "technically" no less than 3 yr.......

I'm pretty sure that if labeled straight but with no age statement that the minimum age is 4yrs. Between 2-4 years it must have an age statement.

[tanstaafl2]

On 3/5/2018 at 11:26 PM, flahute said:

I'm pretty sure that if labeled straight but with no age statement that the minimum age is 4yrs. Between 2-4 years it must have an age statement.

Might be more accurate to say it is "supposed" to have an age statement. Unfortunately I don't think every producer, especially on the "craft" side, follows the rules every time.

[PowderKeg]

On 3/5/2018 at 10:26 PM, flahute said:

I'm pretty sure that if labeled straight but with no age statement that the minimum age is 4yrs. Between 2-4 years it must have an age statement.

Yup, had a brain fart, any bourbon less than 4yr is supposed to have the age stated.  "Straight" requires 2yr min + age stated when less than 4 + no additives, and BiB is 4yr min with no age statement required (since it must be 4yr min) with the other BiB requirements.

 

 

[kaiserhog]

I really want a bottle of Col. EH Taylor BIB.  Tried some at Big Whiskey in Bentonville Arkansas and it was sublime.

[$helby]

On 3/7/2018 at 10:53 PM, kaiserhog said:

I really want a bottle of Col. EH Taylor BIB.  Tried some at Big Whiskey in Bentonville Arkansas and it was sublime.

I agree! It is indeed very good.  I’m on my second pour tonight preparing for my Tarheels to take on the Devils for the third time this year  Rubber match game so  I may drink to Sussex’s or to drown my sorrow. Either way good stuff....

[kaiserhog]

13 hours ago, $helby said:

I agree! It is indeed very good.  I’m on my second pour tonight preparing for my Tarheels to take on the Devils for the third time this year  Rubber match game so  I may drink to Sussex’s or to drown my sorrow. Either way good stuff....

Congratulations $helby on the Tar Heels big win over Duke last night.  Makes the bourbon a little sweeter when the Blue Devils go down.  Arkansas had a big win last night over Florida. I just hope our Hogs don't get paired up against y'all in the second round of the NCAA again.

[ebo]

It's always BiB day for me. OGD and WT101 ( I know...lol) are every day pours for me.

[$helby]

5 hours ago, kaiserhog said:

Congratulations $helby on the Tar Heels big win over Duke last night.  Makes the bourbon a little sweeter when the Blue Devils go down.  Arkansas had a big win last night over Florida. I just hope our Hogs don't get paired up against y'all in the second round of the NCAA again.

Thanks, if we do we can have a toast pregame!

[kaiserhog]

With the Colonel, of course.

[kaiserhog]

I will add the Hogs got drilled today by Tennessee.  I am watching the ACC final right now, Carolina v Virgina.  Go Heels.