GeeTen Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 After doing the obligatory Search with several variations, I'm posting my query here. Yeah, I know it's "Tennessee Whiskey" but still technically bourbon, no? My memories of JD are from my "Animal House" days at my fraternity in college so I'm hesitant to pull the trigger just yet. Supposedly, this is 100 proof whiskey stored in the upper reaches of the rickhouse in heavily charred, then toasted JD-made barrels. Only 200 barrels in this batch, too. Anybody tried this stuff yet? It just showed up on our local shelves. MSRP is $65 - YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, GeeTen said: After doing the obligatory Search with several variations, I'm posting my query here. Yeah, I know it's "Tennessee Whiskey" but still technically bourbon, no? My memories of JD are from my "Animal House" days at my fraternity in college so I'm hesitant to pull the trigger just yet. Supposedly, this is 100 proof whiskey stored in the upper reaches of the rickhouse in heavily charred, then toasted JD-made barrels. Only 200 barrels in this batch, too. Anybody tried this stuff yet? It just showed up on our local shelves. MSRP is $65 - YMMV. "...charred THEN barrelled"? That seems silly to me. Once charred, wouldn't toasting accomplish little to no change in the wood? (Granted, I have virtually zero understanding of the process of toasting, and know 'some' but not a lot about charring.) Anyone with knowledge and understanding; please elucidate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDN98 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Richnimrod said: "...charred THEN barrelled"? That seems silly to me. Once charred, wouldn't toasting accomplish little to no change in the wood? (Granted, I have virtually zero understanding of the process of toasting, and know 'some' but not a lot about charring.) Anyone with knowledge and understanding; please elucidate! It is my understanding that it isn't the same barrel. It is first stored in heavily charred barrels and then "finished" in toasted barrels, which is similar to what Michter's does with their Michter's Toasted Barrel Finish Bourbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffrey r Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I opened up a bottle of this the other night. First impressions were positive, but I need to revisit it this week after a little breathing time. Nice flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 I like it quite a bit, to me it's the best JD I've had I think it's more balanced than JDBP. In regards to toasting then charring this is what BF does with many of their barrels, toasting first over a longer period of time would definitely have an effect as it impacts deeper into the wood than charring which is more surface level. It has an impact as the distillate is pulled deeper into the wood than the char level while aging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, NDN98 said: It is my understanding that it isn't the same barrel. It is first stored in heavily charred barrels and then "finished" in toasted barrels, which is similar to what Michter's does with their Michter's Toasted Barrel Finish Bourbon. Ahhh, now it makes sense. Thanx, NDN98. I shoulda guessed this was what Gee meant. I put it down to early hour. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpfratn Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 These JD barrels are slowly toasted to achieve a a deeper, richer toasted layer before they are charred. This is not a double barreled, finished product. The distillate is also at a lower entry proof than normal JD when barreled and is matured in the top racks of the highest elevated rickhouse in Lynchburg. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeTen Posted December 11, 2018 Author Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Richnimrod said: "...charred THEN barrelled"? That seems silly to me. Once charred, wouldn't toasting accomplish little to no change in the wood? (Granted, I have virtually zero understanding of the process of toasting, and know 'some' but not a lot about charring.) Anyone with knowledge and understanding; please elucidate! It's been a tough morning ordering tile for the master bathroom renovation. I am probably wrong about the Heritage barrel. Will check and update as necessary. . Edited December 11, 2018 by GeeTen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 My LS held me a bottle, and if memory serves, the neck tag said they put it in the barrel at 100 proof. I really, really enjoyed my first glass. I'm not a JD buyer except for the barrel proof, but what was originally a bit of remorse for spending MORE money on whiskey, turned into instant relief that I didn't let this bottle go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadewood Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) Their website and hangtag on the bottle spews this crap line - "The "Heritage Barrel" expression of Jack Daniel's Single Barrel was crafted with a low temperature, heavy toasted barrel which created a light but rich char" Toasting does NOT create char. And if the barrels were not charred, then it fails to meet the state of TN law for TN whiskey. Edited December 12, 2018 by wadewood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpfratn Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Their website and hangtag on the bottle spews this crap line - "The "Heritage Barrel" expression of Jack Daniel's Single Barrel was crafted with a low temperature, heavy toasted barrel which created a light but rich char" Toasting does NOT create char. And if the barrels were not charred, then it fails to meet the state of TN law for TN whiskey.The last time I made toast and left it in the toaster too long, I believe I ended up with charred toast. So, yes, I believe extended toasting can create char. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDN98 Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Ahhh, now it makes sense. Thanx, NDN98. [emoji4] I shoulda guessed this was what Gee meant. I put it down to early hour. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it. Looks like I assumed wrong. According to an article I just read in Forbes, “These were created specifically for this project and were slowly heated during their production to achieve a deeper, richer toasted layer before being charred. All of the color and much of the flavor in any whiskey (or any colored spirit) comes from the barrels, and wood and level of toasting or charring is vitally important to the final product.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeTen Posted December 12, 2018 Author Share Posted December 12, 2018 9 hours ago, NDN98 said: Looks like I assumed wrong. According to an article I just read in Forbes, “These were created specifically for this project and were slowly heated during their production to achieve a deeper, richer toasted layer before being charred. All of the color and much of the flavor in any whiskey (or any colored spirit) comes from the barrels, and wood and level of toasting or charring is vitally important to the final product.” As I've noted many times before, English is NOT my native language . . . . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 hours ago, GeeTen said: As I've noted many times before, English is NOT my native language . . . . . . . Que Pasa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpfratn Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I finally got around to opening a bottle of this tonight, and I’ve got to say...it’s pretty darn fantastic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 All this talk about char, toasting and marketing hype, yada yada. Thank you lcpfratn for tasting it and telling us how it actually tastes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcpfratn Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 All this talk about char, toasting and marketing hype, yada yada. Thank you lcpfratn for tasting it and telling us how it actually tastes.Actually, several folks early in the thread indicated that they liked it too, but admittedly, there hasn’t been any discussion regarding whether it’s any good for quite a few posts. After tasting it this evening, I’ll also say that I’m happy that I have more than one bottle since I haven’t seen it on any store shelves since shortly after it was released. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 9 hours ago, lcpfratn said: Actually, several folks early in the thread indicated that they liked it too, but admittedly, there hasn’t been any discussion regarding whether it’s any good for quite a few posts. After tasting it this evening, I’ll also say that I’m happy that I have more than one bottle since I haven’t seen it on any store shelves since shortly after it was released. I think there were a few posts in the "Other American Whiskey" threads as well. I'm glad I bunkered a few as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeTen Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Ok, will see if the bourbon budget can handle a bottle or two. Took another hit today - see "Lottery" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjg1701 Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Snagged a bottle last night. Very unique, barely recognizable as JD, with a very powerful and dry oak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCWoody Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 This is a very good JD whiskey, I think I have 3 in the bunker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Loblaw Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Missed out on this one unfortunately. My store has done a JD Barrel Proof pick on a few occasions . I did not care much for the first bottle and had to be convinced to buy the second time around this fall. WOW! The second bottle was just huge brown sugar and caramel and great with ice. Heat wise drank like a 100 proofer despite hitting a healthy 135pf. They just got in a third barrel that my store says is closer in profile to the first one, but I am still excited to try it. Back on topic. The JDBP opened my eyes a bit and I would definitely buy the Heritage if I saw it and/or it was released again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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