0895 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 It all started with the WLW at a local lottery and I then spent the next several years chasing all the 2015âs down, so I could do the vertical tasting that never happened at my localâs tasting bar (because they didnât get any ER17 or SAZ18 that year). Think about the work involved in that for a minute.  Once the â16 garbage saz 18 came out, nobody.  I mean NOBODY! was parting with their older âtankedâ Saz18 anymore.  ER17 took a ridiculous price hike (secondary) around the same time, and bottle counts plummeted. So, in some strange twisted fate,  I made it happen.  Took me a few years. I decided that I would open them when I turned 40 (today).  The corona virus ruined my party, but I still went through with my plans.  The wife and I ran the spectrum and both of us are in agreement  it was the highlight of the week..... I honestly think this was the last year that every expression was really damn good, before moving to the hit & miss thatâs going on right now. Anyway, pics or it didnât happen, right? Cheers!  21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob_Loblaw Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) Yes! Thatâs what I was looking for! Really did just make my day. Fantastic. Edited March 21, 2020 by Bob_Loblaw Oh yeah, Happy Birthday! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCwhammie Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Damn, that's a nice spread! Cheers to a Happy birthday! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clueby Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Cheers. I knew it was coming and couldn't wait to see the pics!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Congratulations, 0895!  To your wife, as well, since she was a participant in the festivities.  Turned 40? WOW!  You're getting old dude! (NOT!)    You 'youngsters' are so cute; still celebrating those "milestone birthdays". At my age, every day I manage to get out of bed and see myself in the mirror is cause for celebration!  5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vosgar Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Happy Birthday and congratulations on being able to do your dream vertical!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parksmart Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Nice!  Congrats on the milestone.  I hope your wifey gave you a heckuva ârhymes with bdayâ present!!!  2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 1 hour ago, 0895 said: It all started with the WLW at a local lottery and I then spent the next several years chasing all the 2015âs down, so I could do the vertical tasting that never happened at my localâs tasting bar (because they didnât get any ER17 or SAZ18 that year). Think about the work involved in that for a minute.  Once the â16 garbage saz 18 came out, nobody.  I mean NOBODY! was parting with their older âtankedâ Saz18 anymore.  ER17 took a ridiculous price hike (secondary) around the same time, and bottle counts plummeted. So, in some strange twisted fate,  I made it happen.  Took me a few years. I decided that I would open them when I turned 40 (today).  The corona virus ruined my party, but I still went through with my plans.  The wife and I ran the spectrum and both of us are in agreement  it was the highlight of the week..... I honestly think this was the last year that every expression was really damn good, before moving to the hit & miss thatâs going on right now. Anyway, pics or it didnât happen, right? Cheers!      [Pics deleted to save bandwidth, such as it is -] Like Towelly on "South Park", I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0895 Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 more pics of follow up pours. Â -birthday bourbon, just because! -Al Young because Iâm a 4R fiend. Â what else is lurking around here ... Â Â 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.B. Babington Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 how was the saz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Happy Birthday, I'm so old that I remember seeing some of those on shelves. Wow, $69.99 for something called Stagg. That's expensive. I wonder if it's good. Kudos to you for assembling the line up, opening them, and having a great birthday in this crazy world. Is there a favorite, or too close to call? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinbrink Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Happy Birthday hope you enjoyed those pours! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnbowljoe Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Happy 40th O! Nice job on the pours. Iâll try and raise a glass of Weller to you later on. Cheers!  Biba! Joe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryT Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Happy 40th, and congrats at being able to assemble your dream vertical (and for not just observing it; I'll bet it tasted a whole lot better than it looked!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beasled Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 Happy birthday! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 This is a great story. Thanks for sharing. And happy 40th! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0895 Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 12 hours ago, B.B. Babington said: how was the saz?  5 hours ago, PaulO said:  Is there a favorite, or too close to call?  They were all very good in their own unique ways.  We drank them from low to high proof, and I opted to keep the ryes next to each other.  So:   ER17-SAZ18-THH-WLW-GTS. We went through them once, then revisited again, and had a few extra sips of our favorites.  The ER17 honestly just tastes like an older, more oaky version of normal ER to me.  I like Eagle Rare a lot, so I found this to be exponentially more woody/oaky than the standard stuff, with less of the cherry notes. On the second visit, it tasted like nothing except popsicle stick to me, so I didn't take any more from the bottle as I felt it was lost on my palate.  The wife's tasted more grassy than wood on her second visit, and I tried it just to verify.  Strange how two different glass could evolve so differently.  Both were clean "glens".  Perhaps it just isn't this ones night to shine.  The Saz18 took a bit to open up.  It was very musty and muted at first, but then developed a slight dill about it, followed by a fresh creamy array of delicate baking spice.  Very subtle, not the smack in the face that comes from newer produced rye.  This stuff would be a delight for any rye junkie, and easily the wife's favorite bottle of the night.  THH started with aroma's of rich chocolate and leather (think leather saddlebag, shoes, belts, etc).  The leather notes in some THH (and rye in general) are my absolute favorite.  I can smell this stuff all day.  Tastewise, we got a lot of chocolate and Reeses peanut butter, like peanut butter pie.  This stuff is liquid desert in a glass and is absolutely wonderful.  Second time around was very similar to the first, with my wife noting some slight floral notes getting added to the mix.  WLW just speaks for itself.  The '15 was the first WLW I ever tried at a bar, and I've been in love with it since.  The '15, '16, & '17 WLW's are some of the best wheated bourbons I've ever tasted period.  Rich notes of chocolate, candy bars (like the middle of snickers or Milky Way bar) and a wealth of other delicious things that would take me a while to pinpoint.  Just incredible.  GTS used to be my absolute favorite whiskey ever.  Back when it tasted like this! This older stuff '10, '12, '14, '15, & '16 is what GTS is all about to me.  Thick, rich, chocolate, caramel, tobacco, vanilla, molasses, and subtle dark fruits, in a wrapper of oak. This bottle doesn't disappoint to live up to the expectations I had for it based upon memory.  My favorite were the 3 barrel proofers.  I can't really pick a leader, as they are all fantastic and each one is a different experience from the next.   Saz18 is next, and then the ER17. Wife loved the Saz18 the most, followed by the WLW, then GTS/THH (tie for 3rd) and finally ER17.  I think the ER17 would likely get a lot more love if enjoyed by itself, so I'll have to revisit it again sometime. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCwhammie Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, 0895 said:   They were all very good in their own unique ways.  We drank them from low to high proof, and I opted to keep the ryes next to each other.  So:   ER17-SAZ18-THH-WLW-GTS. We went through them once, then revisited again, and had a few extra sips of our favorites.  The ER17 honestly just tastes like an older, more oaky version of normal ER to me.  I like Eagle Rare a lot, so I found this to be exponentially more woody/oaky than the standard stuff, with less of the cherry notes. On the second visit, it tasted like nothing except popsicle stick to me, so I didn't take any more from the bottle as I felt it was lost on my palate.  The wife's tasted more grassy than wood on her second visit, and I tried it just to verify.  Strange how two different glass could evolve so differently.  Both were clean "glens".  Perhaps it just isn't this ones night to shine.  The Saz18 took a bit to open up.  It was very musty and muted at first, but then developed a slight dill about it, followed by a fresh creamy array of delicate baking spice.  Very subtle, not the smack in the face that comes from newer produced rye.  This stuff would be a delight for any rye junkie, and easily the wife's favorite bottle of the night.  THH started with aroma's of rich chocolate and leather (think leather saddlebag, shoes, belts, etc).  The leather notes in some THH (and rye in general) are my absolute favorite.  I can smell this stuff all day.  Tastewise, we got a lot of chocolate and Reeses peanut butter, like peanut butter pie.  This stuff is liquid desert in a glass and is absolutely wonderful.  Second time around was very similar to the first, with my wife noting some slight floral notes getting added to the mix.  WLW just speaks for itself.  The '15 was the first WLW I ever tried at a bar, and I've been in love with it since.  The '15, '16, & '17 WLW's are some of the best wheated bourbons I've ever tasted period.  Rich notes of chocolate, candy bars (like the middle of snickers or Milky Way bar) and a wealth of other delicious things that would take me a while to pinpoint.  Just incredible.  GTS used to be my absolute favorite whiskey ever.  Back when it tasted like this! This older stuff '10, '12, '14, '15, & '16 is what GTS is all about to me.  Thick, rich, chocolate, caramel, tobacco, vanilla, molasses, and subtle dark fruits, in a wrapper of oak. This bottle doesn't disappoint to live up to the expectations I had for it based upon memory.  My favorite were the 3 barrel proofers.  I can't really pick a leader, as they are all fantastic and each one is a different experience from the next.   Saz18 is next, and then the ER17. Wife loved the Saz18 the most, followed by the WLW, then GTS/THH (tie for 3rd) and finally ER17.  I think the ER17 would likely get a lot more love if enjoyed by itself, so I'll have to revisit it again sometime. That's a really good run down of all 5. Thanks for sharing! I'll eagerly await a write up of a sbs between the THH and 630 5yr. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FasterHorses Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Happy 40th! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledInBond Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 7 hours ago, 0895 said:   They were all very good in their own unique ways.  We drank them from low to high proof, and I opted to keep the ryes next to each other.  So:   ER17-SAZ18-THH-WLW-GTS. We went through them once, then revisited again, and had a few extra sips of our favorites.  The ER17 honestly just tastes like an older, more oaky version of normal ER to me.  I like Eagle Rare a lot, so I found this to be exponentially more woody/oaky than the standard stuff, with less of the cherry notes. On the second visit, it tasted like nothing except popsicle stick to me, so I didn't take any more from the bottle as I felt it was lost on my palate.  The wife's tasted more grassy than wood on her second visit, and I tried it just to verify.  Strange how two different glass could evolve so differently.  Both were clean "glens".  Perhaps it just isn't this ones night to shine.  The Saz18 took a bit to open up.  It was very musty and muted at first, but then developed a slight dill about it, followed by a fresh creamy array of delicate baking spice.  Very subtle, not the smack in the face that comes from newer produced rye.  This stuff would be a delight for any rye junkie, and easily the wife's favorite bottle of the night.  THH started with aroma's of rich chocolate and leather (think leather saddlebag, shoes, belts, etc).  The leather notes in some THH (and rye in general) are my absolute favorite.  I can smell this stuff all day.  Tastewise, we got a lot of chocolate and Reeses peanut butter, like peanut butter pie.  This stuff is liquid desert in a glass and is absolutely wonderful.  Second time around was very similar to the first, with my wife noting some slight floral notes getting added to the mix.  WLW just speaks for itself.  The '15 was the first WLW I ever tried at a bar, and I've been in love with it since.  The '15, '16, & '17 WLW's are some of the best wheated bourbons I've ever tasted period.  Rich notes of chocolate, candy bars (like the middle of snickers or Milky Way bar) and a wealth of other delicious things that would take me a while to pinpoint.  Just incredible.  GTS used to be my absolute favorite whiskey ever.  Back when it tasted like this! This older stuff '10, '12, '14, '15, & '16 is what GTS is all about to me.  Thick, rich, chocolate, caramel, tobacco, vanilla, molasses, and subtle dark fruits, in a wrapper of oak. This bottle doesn't disappoint to live up to the expectations I had for it based upon memory.  My favorite were the 3 barrel proofers.  I can't really pick a leader, as they are all fantastic and each one is a different experience from the next.   Saz18 is next, and then the ER17. Wife loved the Saz18 the most, followed by the WLW, then GTS/THH (tie for 3rd) and finally ER17.  I think the ER17 would likely get a lot more love if enjoyed by itself, so I'll have to revisit it again sometime. The âmustyâ is part of what I love about the old glut era ryes. Itâs sad if you get hooked on it, since itâs so hard to find them anymore.  Happy birthday. Life is short so I applaud anyone who goes and finds the bottles they want and cracks them open.    Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUfan99 Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 @0895Happy Late Birthday. I gotta say though, I miss the blue pictures. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0895 Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, BottledInBond said: The âmustyâ is part of what I love about the old glut era ryes. Itâs sad if you get hooked on it, since itâs so hard to find them anymore.  Happy birthday. Life is short so I applaud anyone who goes and finds the bottles they want and cracks them open.     Thanks. Yeah, too late.  I got to try some of that Willett 25 year rye several months ago at a party.  Nobody else was touching it, and the owner said he wasn't taking the bottle home.  It was a life changing moment for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 11:38 PM, Harry in WashDC said: [Pics deleted to save bandwidth, such as it is -] Like Towelly on "South Park", I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON!! Just reread the thread. You have inspired me. VBT # 721 was the result - I pulled something new and different off the shelf. Happy 40th. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyBlender Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 Sorry I'm late to the party, @0895, but I hope you had a wonderful 40th birthday!  You know, the birthday celebration doesn't have to end even if the day does? I hope you've continued to enjoy a little more of that stellar vertical line-up, or if not that, at least something as comparable and delicious!  Cheers, Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0895 Posted March 22, 2020 Author Share Posted March 22, 2020 52 minutes ago, WhiskeyBlender said: Sorry I'm late to the party, @0895, but I hope you had a wonderful 40th birthday!  You know, the birthday celebration doesn't have to end even if the day does? I hope you've continued to enjoy a little more of that stellar vertical line-up, or if not that, at least something as comparable and delicious!  Cheers, Nancy Thanks Nancy. I did go back to the ER17 last night and enjoyed it a lot. Ive been digging into many good bottles all week, which actually reminds me.... thereâs a batch one cigar blend around here somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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