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Sorry for being a little late to kick off the new year but I needed a break after the State of the State post.

With that aside, I figured we should kick off a new year with a new bourbon.

For those of you who put up with my posts and who read the aforementioned super long post, you know that I consider KC12 to be the best new release of 2020.

Now it should be said that I am one of those who generally doesn't like young Beam. Booker's from 4-5 years ago could overcome that but otherwise I only liked KC at 9 years and up. So maybe I'm biased to older Beam in ways that others aren't. 

 

I should also say that I was among the many who caught on to the KCSiB program including the much older barrels into the program and as a result of catching on early (thanks to my friend who worked for Beam at the time) I have a cabinet that is chock full of 12,13,14, and 15yr old KCSiB private selections - most of them selected by me. They are among my favorite bottles in my bunker. In past State of the State posts I criticized Beam for not doing anything special in the way of LE's given all this great whiskey they had. Well, I have to fess up to my hypocrisy when they started to divert those old barrels into KC12 and KC15 while charging a higher price. I didn't like it because I was spoiled by all of those older picks at the less expensive single barrel price. Welp, it looks like I got what I wanted! In a sense anyway. The 15yr is indeed limited and I haven't tried it yet. I saw it once, but that was when I was still feeling salty over the price hike. I'll buy one next time. As for the 12yr, it's a regularly available item. And that is remarkable given its quality. Once I decided to take the plunge, I was immediately glad that I did and I ran around buying up as many as I could because at the time I didn't know it was not an LE.

 

Onto the whiskey - kudos to the blending team on this. To my palate it is perfectly balanced. You can definitely taste the age but it is no way is it too tannic or oaky. It has a well rounded mouthfeel (emphasis on round, as in soft) of salted caramel that I get in the 2020 4RLESmB and the WT17BIB. This tells me there is older whiskey in the mix. It is almost a perfect whiskey to my palate. I wonder how long Beam can keep this up at that age. I think I'm going to go out and buy some more just in case.

 

Tell me what y'all think.

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I have a # of KC picks in the 11-15 year range, and when I open one of these, I will proof it down slightly and compare it to the KC12. The KC12 is slightly more expensive, but has more than held it's own every time. As my aged KC picks slowly run out, I will certainly purchase more of the KC12. Excellent stuff! 

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Guss West

Good one, Steve.  Going to make me buy one after all.  

 

First, I'll say that Knob Creek is my favorite Beam product, and it's a short list.  Always an open one around, right now it's a half-gallon of the old-label 9 year old age-stated stuff from 4-5 years back.  

 

Count me among those with a backup of fantastic teenage KC SiB selections from the past several years as well. It's been hard to pull the trigger on the 12 or 15 when I have so many like it already.  I've seen them both near me at MSRP, but that was a few months ago.  

 

"Dangit, Bobby..."  

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Harry in WashDC

THX, Steve.  Love the choice.  I've finished off two KC 12YO's since its release and loved both - B/S seems to have maintained the profile batch to batch which is tough to do when you are dumping 100s of barrels at a time over time.  I also agree that older Beams (anything 7 years of more??) are at least not bad.  While I like the 9YO for its sharp elbows and rough edges, I love the 12YO because those sharps and edges are sanded down.  I don't know how they do that - WHO is doing the blending for this?

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From time to time, it’s exciting to chase a limited, extra-aged release. Getting to the store early, aggressively grabbing that limited release bottle off of the shelf and proudly carrying it to the register, hoping that part-time bottle shop employee doesn’t turn to you and say “Where’d you get that?” 
 

You know what’s even better? Strolling into your favorite local liquor store - any time of the day, and day of the week - and knowing that if your precious limited bottle ain’t there, KC 12 will be. And for half the price. 
 

The QPR and availability of KC 12 shouldn’t be minimized. It feels like Jim Beam is leading the way back to normalcy, where you can once again find well aged and delicious whiskey waiting for you on your favorite LS shelves. 
 

Big up’s to JB for starting a much-needed and well deserved trend.

 

Plus KC 12 really delicious. Period. 

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I saw KC12 in several stores in December.  Not so many in January.  However, I did run into a few bottles recently.  The price on the bottles I saw in December was in the low $50s.  The bottles I saw recently were in the low $60s.  I know prices can vary by region.  However, I am curious what price others are finding it for.   I am also curious is this an ongoing release or is it by specific batches?

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2 minutes ago, mbroo5880i said:

I saw KC12 in several stores in December.  Not so many in January.  However, I did run into a few bottles recently.  The price on the bottles I saw in December was in the low $50s.  The bottles I saw recently were in the low $60s.  I know prices can vary by region.  However, I am curious what price others are finding it for.   I am also curious is this an ongoing release or is it by specific batches?

It will be an ongoing release. By nature, it will be a batch to batch situation but because it's not at barrel proof there's no way for us to know easily what batch is what.

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1 minute ago, flahute said:

It will be an ongoing release. By nature, it will be a batch to batch situation but because it's not at barrel proof there's no way for us to know easily what batch is what.

Thanks Steve!  I was curious whether the batch I saw in December is the same as the one I saw a few days ago.  I would assume minimal variation given each batch is 100 proof.

 

On a side note, I have noted a price increase for KC at different local retailers since the beginning of the year.  About 10%.  ☹️

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2 hours ago, mbroo5880i said:

I saw KC12 in several stores in December.  Not so many in January.  However, I did run into a few bottles recently.  The price on the bottles I saw in December was in the low $50s.  The bottles I saw recently were in the low $60s.  I know prices can vary by region.  However, I am curious what price others are finding it for.   I am also curious is this an ongoing release or is it by specific batches?

 

 

I have not seen it any lower than $59.99 around here, and a few bucks more here & there.

 

 

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On 1/10/2021 at 6:32 PM, flahute said:

As for the 12yr, it's a regularly available item. And that is remarkable given its quality. Once I decided to take the plunge, I was immediately glad that I did and I ran around buying up as many as I could because at the time I didn't know it was not an LE.

 

 

 

On 1/16/2021 at 4:23 PM, Rhettro said:

You know what’s even better? Strolling into your favorite local liquor store - any time of the day, and day of the week - and knowing that if your precious limited bottle ain’t there, KC 12 will be. And for half the price. 
 

The QPR and availability of KC 12 shouldn’t be minimized. It feels like Jim Beam is leading the way back to normalcy, where you can once again find well aged and delicious whiskey waiting for you on your favorite LS shelves. 

 

 

Y'all are lucky if KC12 is readily available in your area.  Full out limited "tater" rarity here in Texas.  I  procured a bottle last July, but haven't seen it since in these parts.  Maybe I just missed it.

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9 hours ago, Kepler said:

 

Y'all are lucky if KC12 is readily available in your area.  Full out limited "tater" rarity here in Texas.  I  procured a bottle last July, but haven't seen it since in these parts.  Maybe I just missed it.

I think people are catching on because it's currently out of stock. More is expected this month but we'll see.

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On 1/17/2021 at 8:57 PM, mbroo5880i said:

I saw KC12 in several stores in December.  Not so many in January.  However, I did run into a few bottles recently.  The price on the bottles I saw in December was in the low $50s.  The bottles I saw recently were in the low $60s.  I know prices can vary by region.  However, I am curious what price others are finding it for.   I am also curious is this an ongoing release or is it by specific batches?

They wanted $75.00 for a bottle, at a local LS, in the Baltimore Metro area.    That may not be typical, for around here, as this is the same store that's charging $39.99 for Old Tub.   I'll have to visit one of my regular haunts, (with better selections and pricing), and re-post what I see.   I'd be comfortable paying ~ $60.00.  If it hit's the $70's, the taters can have it....

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CorvallisCracker

Went through a bottle of it in December. Liked it okay, but not enough to track down another bottle (none in the state currently, at least according to the never wrong OLCC search engine). That surprised me a bit; I've been a fan of the 9yo since the 1990s).

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I bought a couple of bottles of the 12 ($60) and one of the 15 ($100) a few months ago. I have finished off one of the 12's ( haven't cracked the 15 yet ). It was good, smoother and a bit more oakey than the standard KC. It has been somewhat regularly available here, and I may get it from time to time,  but there are a few other bottles in that price range that I prefer ( like the 4RSBS ).

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smokinjoe

This is a solid whiskey, and I enjoy it.  Beams with extended age get too dry to my tastes, so anything much over 7 yr tend to get outside my enjoyment zone.  This 12 doesn’t cross the line with me, however.  It still retains the juiciness to it, which I get from what is my sweetspot in 7ish year Beam.  When Beams lose that juiciness, they lose me.  

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On 2/9/2021 at 8:33 AM, Skinsfan1311 said:

They wanted $75.00 for a bottle, at a local LS, in the Baltimore Metro area.    That may not be typical, for around here, as this is the same store that's charging $39.99 for Old Tub.   I'll have to visit one of my regular haunts, (with better selections and pricing), and re-post what I see.   I'd be comfortable paying ~ $60.00.  If it hit's the $70's, the taters can have it....

Mrs. Skinsfan found it for $53.99. $25.00 cheaper than I've seen anywhere else around here. Inwish she had bought a couple more.  The juice on the right was $38.99.  

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