PaulO Posted Saturday at 01:49 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:49 PM On 5/8/2025 at 11:32 PM, MSB said: Agree. I would have bought box set for that price. ( I have never had a chance to buy a BB, sadly) The BB is 10-12 years old and bottled at 90 something proof, changes by release. It seems a drier profile compared to other versions of OF. I get tannin like strong tea, dry wood like cedar cigar box. At low 90 something proof, and not much sweetness, it can feel sort of thin. It's ok, but not my favorite in the OF line up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT3NSB Posted Saturday at 09:32 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:32 PM On 5/8/2025 at 12:29 PM, fosmith said: Wow! 20 yo Dickel and nearly cask strength for $75 is unbelievable in today's market, and the whiskey is insanely good, even at lower proofs. I've had some 17 and 18 yr ones that were outstanding. What's the proof on your bottle? I had a bottle at 84.x proof that had amazing concentration of flavor. What I heard (from someone who got it directly from Dickel) is that these barrels come from the lower floors of the rickhouse and lose proof as they age. They have a range of target proofs for these so, at bottling, they proof them down by 1-1.5% or so in order to simplify the bottling and labeling process. So, my most recent bottle of 15yr, bottled at 96.2 proof, probably came out of the barrel at around 97 proof. That small amount of water is not going to impact the flavor to any significant degree. This one is 84.4. I’m a dumbass. I went in there without my reading glasses. It was the lowest proof 15 year I’ve ever seen. But I was already down the road before I realized the age. I certainly would’ve purchase more. I like these occasionally… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzelinka Posted Sunday at 12:18 AM Share Posted Sunday at 12:18 AM On 5/8/2025 at 9:44 PM, Clueby said: Went to a bourbon club dinner/lottery tonight that was Old Forester sponsored/centric. I was the 2nd overall pick and had to settle for 1924 as there was only ONE bottle of Birthday. Also picked up a store pick barrel proof. The food was really good and had good company and conversation. Exceptional offerings by old forester 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven s Posted Sunday at 03:25 AM Share Posted Sunday at 03:25 AM 2 wsr at 33$ 1 ER at 45$ seeing these everywhere now, again, but at these new prices, and these prices were far better than i saw elsewhere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted Sunday at 05:00 AM Share Posted Sunday at 05:00 AM 15 hours ago, PaulO said: The BB is 10-12 years old and bottled at 90 something proof, changes by release. It seems a drier profile compared to other versions of OF. I get tannin like strong tea, dry wood like cedar cigar box. At low 90 something proof, and not much sweetness, it can feel sort of thin. It's ok, but not my favorite in the OF line up. The more recent Birthday bourbons are higher proof. I have at least a couple that are over 100 proof. That bump up in proof helps them. But I get your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted Sunday at 05:11 AM Share Posted Sunday at 05:11 AM (edited) 16 hours ago, Skinsfan1311 said: Yup and, after the initial pour, it's very good but not much better, (if it all), than the standard offering. I guess that I can to do a blind SBS, but I already know that it's not worth the extra $$. I don't regret the purchase, but will not be replacing these... That's a fair take. The new WT8 is definitely meant to be simply an "up-sell" item. I do expect quality of the NAS 101 to go down due to less older aged stock in the blend though. I assume we've already seen the best of $19.99 Wild Turkey, ... for a good while anyway. Edited Sunday at 05:14 AM by Kepler 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kepler Posted Sunday at 07:21 AM Share Posted Sunday at 07:21 AM 9 hours ago, JT3NSB said: This one is 84.4. I’m a dumbass. I went in there without my reading glasses. It was the lowest proof 15 year I’ve ever seen. But I was already down the road before I realized the age. I certainly would’ve purchase more. I like these occasionally… I personally wouldn't sweat it. I've had better luck with the higher proof Dickel 15 Year single barrels. Anything around 96 to 105 proof are the ones I grab if the price is right. Most of those have been picked over in my neck of the woods. Most of the ones sitting on shelves these days are 80.00 proof bottles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted Sunday at 12:04 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:04 PM 6 hours ago, Kepler said: That's a fair take. The new WT8 is definitely meant to be simply an "up-sell" item. I do expect quality of the NAS 101 to go down due to less older aged stock in the blend though. I assume we've already seen the best of $19.99 Wild Turkey, ... for a good while anyway. While I hope you're wrong about this, Kepler, it's likely that you aren't. Even with the current level of 'over-supply' that apparently exists in well-aged stocks of Bourbon around the nation, the 8-year age statement means "at least 8-years", while the un-age-stated version doesn't have to be nearly that old. Logic suggests that the 'regular stuph' will be less-aged than it has been. That doesn't automatically mean 'less quality', or even that it will be 'different' than it has been; but, over time I have to imagine it will slip into a less dynamic profile. WT101 has always (to my taste buddies, anyway) been a brand that had in-your-face Bourbon character that many other brands in the same price range did not. I have already been reading (here and elsewhere) of some slight-to-moderate dissatisfaction with WT101 over the last couple years or so. I can't speak to that, since I haven't needed to buy any since about 2022, having stocked up at good prices then. That indicates to me some variability that I believe did not exist in this brand before this time. So, the bottlers at WT seem to have some leeway in keeping to the profile. Time will tell, as usual. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fosmith Posted Sunday at 03:15 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:15 PM 17 hours ago, JT3NSB said: This one is 84.4. I’m a dumbass. I went in there without my reading glasses. It was the lowest proof 15 year I’ve ever seen. But I was already down the road before I realized the age. I certainly would’ve purchase more. I like these occasionally… A friend had an 82 proof Dickel 15. He gave me a sample and it was outstanding. Amazing depth and concentration of flavor for only 82 proof. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted Sunday at 09:56 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:56 PM 6 hours ago, fosmith said: A friend had an 82 proof Dickel 15. He gave me a sample and it was outstanding. Amazing depth and concentration of flavor for only 82 proof. The last one I bought was 80 proof and it's pretty damn good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDN98 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago In 2022, this stopped being distributed in Texas, but I guess they have enough stock to start distributing it nationwide again, because I just picked up a bottle on Saturday that was bottled in 2024. Glad to see it on a shelf again, but always wished these were a little higher in proof. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulO Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago 2 hours ago, NDN98 said: In 2022, this stopped being distributed in Texas, but I guess they have enough stock to start distributing it nationwide again, because I just picked up a bottle on Saturday that was bottled in 2024. Glad to see it on a shelf again, but always wished these were a little higher in proof. I've started seeing those now and then on shelves. A little higher proof ~ HMcK B.I.B. (seeing some of those too.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted 18 hours ago Author Share Posted 18 hours ago 4 hours ago, NDN98 said: In 2022, this stopped being distributed in Texas, but I guess they have enough stock to start distributing it nationwide again, because I just picked up a bottle on Saturday that was bottled in 2024. Glad to see it on a shelf again, but always wished these were a little higher in proof. I too have been seeing those around. And I too wish they were a lil higher proof. What price are they fetching in your area? 33-38 is what I've been seeing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzelinka Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 5 hours ago, NDN98 said: In 2022, this stopped being distributed in Texas, but I guess they have enough stock to start distributing it nationwide again, because I just picked up a bottle on Saturday that was bottled in 2024. Glad to see it on a shelf again, but always wished these were a little higher in proof. really? Wow, I had no idea. I received this Evan Williams and the Bottled In Bond as a gift. I use them as mixers. I had no idea they were hard to find 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDN98 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 hours ago, MSB said: I too have been seeing those around. And I too wish they were a lil higher proof. What price are they fetching in your area? 33-38 is what I've been seeing. Sounds like DFW is priced about the same. This one was $34.99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDN98 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, rzelinka said: really? Wow, I had no idea. I received this Evan Williams and the Bottled In Bond as a gift. I use them as mixers. I had no idea they were hard to find They didn't used to be hard to find before they were discontinued in Texas, so I hope they will be an every day shelter again. Found an article below about them becoming a "Kentucky Only" bottling from 3 years ago. Evan Williams Single Barrel Is Now Kentucky-Only 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzelinka Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, NDN98 said: They didn't used to be hard to find before they were discontinued in Texas, so I hope they will be an every day shelter again. Found an article below about them becoming a "Kentucky Only" bottling from 3 years ago. Evan Williams Single Barrel Is Now Kentucky-Only Interesting. I can get it at my local total wine. Just checked their website. This is the one from my collection I think we are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MSB Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, NDN98 said: They didn't used to be hard to find before they were discontinued in Texas, so I hope they will be an every day shelter again. Found an article below about them becoming a "Kentucky Only" bottling from 3 years ago. Evan Williams Single Barrel Is Now Kentucky-Only They did go KY only for a lil while. Not sure exactly when it went "national" again but my guess is in the last yr or so. For how long? We will see. Looks like they saw the boom bust before most of us. Happy to see it again! Edited 10 hours ago by MSB Speeling....spelling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted 10 hours ago Author Share Posted 10 hours ago 6 hours ago, rzelinka said: really? Wow, I had no idea. I received this Evan Williams and the Bottled In Bond as a gift. I use them as mixers. I had no idea they were hard to find The BiB is pretty easy to find in most markets, as far as I know. I have not had a problem acquiring one any where. The SiB is another story. As stated above it went KY only for some time. Sad for most of us. Maybe not those that had it when it was aged for a longer period of time( not me) but some of the longer in the tooth folks here. jk Just those that have been in the bourbon world longer than others. I can't find the SiB like I used to 3+yrs ago( almost anywhere) but it is showing up now days but more hit or miss. This was/is one of my favorite Sunday morning oatmeal pours. Pour it into your oatmeal instead of water. (Not really but I think it could easily be done and enjoyed) I am just not THAT GUY, yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzelinka Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 18 minutes ago, MSB said: The BiB is pretty easy to find in most markets, as far as I know. I have not had a problem acquiring one any where. The SiB is another story. As stated above it went KY only for some time. Sad for most of us. Maybe not those that had it when it was aged for a longer period of time( not me) but some of the longer in the tooth folks here. jk Just those that have been in the bourbon world longer than others. I can't find the SiB like I used to 3+yrs ago( almost anywhere) but it is showing up now days but more hit or miss. This was/is one of my favorite Sunday morning oatmeal pours. Pour it into your oatmeal instead of water. (Not really but I think it could easily be done and enjoyed) I am just not THAT GUY, yet. Well it’s pretty easy to find here so I can hook you up if you need me to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted 9 hours ago Author Share Posted 9 hours ago 6 minutes ago, rzelinka said: Well it’s pretty easy to find here so I can hook you up if you need me to I appreciate that, but I have a small stash from a few yrs ago that I prepared for the discontinued distribution of said juice. I have picked a a couple btls since to compare to my good ole days btls.. Lol Thank you for your generous offer. Now let's talk WELLER'S! LOL JK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rzelinka Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, MSB said: I appreciate that, but I have a small stash from a few yrs ago that I prepared for the discontinued distribution of said juice. I have picked a a couple btls since to compare to my good ole days btls.. Lol Thank you for your generous offer. Now let's talk WELLER'S! LOL JK Weller’s is fairly easy to find here too. The special reserve is often easy to find at msrp I would be happy to help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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