BT to add EH Taylor product to BTAC line

[fishnbowljoe]

Much thanks to @Kepler and @Galvin0791 for the heads up about this.

 

https://www.foodandwine.com/eh-taylor-bottled-in-bond-buffalo-trace-antique-collection-2025-11727871

 

 

[Kepler]

Thanks for posting that Joe.

 

Attaching the alleged labels

[Kepler]

Since we know it will be 100 proof, the million dollar question is:  What's the age going to be?  They already have Eagle Rare with the same mashbill boasting 101 proof at 17 years.  So I'm gonna guess 10-12 years for the CEHT in order to differentiate it.

 

 

 

Edited May 5 by Kepler

[LW25]

I wonder if this will be a rebranding of the previous 18 yr Marriage?  We've got ER17 and Saz 18 already so that age range is already proven for BT products.  But you could say it is already represented and they don't want half the new BTAC line to be the same age, so probably more likely we'll get something in the 12-14 yr range.  And I say "we'll get..." as if this wont be another unobtanium bottle   

[Kepler]

24 minutes ago, LW25 said:

I wonder if this will be a rebranding of the previous 18 yr Marriage?  We've got ER17 and Saz 18 already so that age range is already proven for BT products.  But you could say it is already represented and they don't want half the new BTAC line to be the same age, so probably more likely we'll get something in the 12-14 yr range.  And I say "we'll get..." as if this wont be another unobtanium bottle   

 

Do you know what the mash bill was for that 18 year Marriage?  I didn't have a bottle of that one and not sure.  If it's BT mashbill #1 then an 18 year makes no sense, because that is the mashbill for ER17.  That's why I'm guessing an age statement in the middle range (say 10-12 yr) ... something that is not hyper-aged like ER17 but yet significantly older than regular CEHT.  They could also  make the new EH Taylor BTAC bottle something that varies year to year (or even experimental like some CEHT special releases have been) just to keep the taters sufficiently in a constant frenzy.

[LW25]

11 hours ago, Kepler said:

 

Do you know what the mash bill was for that 18 year Marriage?  I didn't have a bottle of that one and not sure.  If it's BT mashbill #1 then an 18 year makes no sense, because that is the mashbill for ER17.  That's why I'm guessing an age statement in the middle range (say 10-12 yr) ... something that is not hyper-aged like ER17 but yet significantly older than regular CEHT.  They could also  make the new EH Taylor BTAC bottle something that varies year to year (or even experimental like some CEHT special releases have been) just to keep the taters sufficiently in a constant frenzy.

I've read before that the 18 yr Marriage is a blend from 3 different Mashbills.  I would assume that means MB 1, MB 2, and the Wheated Mashbill from the Weller/Pappy line, but I figure they have a plethora of experimental mashbills so maybe it's some other combination of three. 

 

I hadn't considered that it might be a rotational or varying release...that could be an interesting twist.   It could be as you suggested, ~10 yr to 12 yr old and BiB, so kind of like BT's version of Old Forester 1924.

[flahute]

18 hours ago, Kepler said:

 

Do you know what the mash bill was for that 18 year Marriage?  I didn't have a bottle of that one and not sure.  If it's BT mashbill #1 then an 18 year makes no sense, because that is the mashbill for ER17.  That's why I'm guessing an age statement in the middle range (say 10-12 yr) ... something that is not hyper-aged like ER17 but yet significantly older than regular CEHT.  They could also  make the new EH Taylor BTAC bottle something that varies year to year (or even experimental like some CEHT special releases have been) just to keep the taters sufficiently in a constant frenzy.

With regular ER being at 10 years I think your notion of something in between that and 17 makes a lot of sense.

[Jazz June]

They put down more of the four grain mash bill as the stuff that became the EH Taylor Four Grain releases was aging, so that might be another thing they could do to differentiate it.

[Kepler]

4 hours ago, Jazz June said:

They put down more of the four grain mash bill as the stuff that became the EH Taylor Four Grain releases was aging, so that might be another thing they could do to differentiate it.

That makes sense too.

[rzelinka]

To that end, and forgive me if that has been discussed elsewhere, but what is the fundamental difference between the various bourbons from Buffalo Trace? EH Taylor, George T Stagg, Stagg Jr, EH Taylor, Eagle Rare, etc.

[Richnimrod]

1 hour ago, rzelinka said:

To that end, and forgive me if that has been discussed elsewhere, but what is the fundamental difference between the various bourbons from Buffalo Trace? EH Taylor, George T Stagg, Stagg Jr, EH Taylor, Eagle Rare, etc.

Not sure there is so much a "fundamental" difference today.   Over the years, some have had 'alternative' mashbills.   Some have been aged longer, some have been chosen for some different profile(s), or have been batched from barrels sought in rickhouses/area of rickhouses different than others.   At least currently, the "#2" mashbill (higher rye) is used for Blanton's (AFAIK) and that one is a single barrel offering.   ...And, of course proofs have varied from brand to brand and with editions/years of release.   ...Not to mention rarity/price.   One could write an entire book about the offerings from this distiller if one wished to delve into the histories, including the wheaters of the Weller Family and the Van Winkle line.

Edited May 30 by Richnimrod
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[rzelinka]

I would imagine the same can be said for Jim Beam with all the varieties, Baker', Booker's, Knob Creek, Jim Beam, etc.

[flahute]

3 hours ago, rzelinka said:

I would imagine the same can be said for Jim Beam with all the varieties, Baker', Booker's, Knob Creek, Jim Beam, etc.

Correct. As mentioned above it's all about aging location and length of aging to achieve different flavor profiles. And after that, blending to achieve those profiles consistently.

[Jazz June]

Food & Wine reports that the EH Taylor BTAC expression "will be 100 proof, aged longer than the standard E.H. Taylor Small Batch, and built on Buffalo Trace’s low-rye mash bill, though final tasting notes and age details remain under wraps."

 

So 1 proof point different than Eagle Rare 17 and the same mash bill. Regular EH Taylor single barrel is supposed to be a minimum of 9 years old, so I'd expect the BTAC version should be at least mid-teens in age, but as discussed above, it really seems like it will be very close on specs to ER 17. Then again "regular" Eagle Rare and EH Taylor aren't that far apart on specs either, so I guess it all comes down to selecting flavors to match the brand's distinct flavor profile.

 

[Richnimrod]

I'm not even sure how much the folx at BT really care about hitting a "flavor profile" for this 'new' addition to the BTAC line.   Being a 'new' addition, it possibly could set its own flavor profile, maybe.   

Not saying they would look for something to be a big departure; but, maybe wouldn't mind a great deal if it was a bit 'different'.   

And, given the fact that any brand included in the BTAC line will be an instant "must have", and a guaranteed success... Wellllllllll....