Black Maple Hill 16Y

[bluesbassdad]

Chuck,

Now that this thread has branched significantly, my reply is here.

Yours truly,

Dave Morefield

[JeffRenner]

There is no Black Maple Hill Distillery. It is an assumed business name. The Black Maple Hill products are from Kentucky Bourbon Distillers Ltd., (KBD) which despite the name is not a distiller.

Strangely, the KBD web site doesn't seem to mention BMH whiskeys at all, only their other brands.

I was hoping to find at least a little more about these whiskeys because I am giving a talk (with samples) on bourbon at the National Homebrew Conference this coming weekend in Orlando. (Another homebrewer and I decided we could do better than the single malt talk given at the NHC two years ago, so last year we did one together - he did SMSW and I did bourbon. It had the biggest attendance of all the talks, I think, and was very well received.)

Anyway, last year we got a sponsor to purchase the samples, so I had my choice of bourbons, and chose a standard rye recipe, a standard wheat one, and a premium. This year, they got a distributor to supply the three malts, but the only bourbons he carries are the BMH line, so he is supplying the BMH 11 and 16 year olds. Not bad, though I'd rather have more freedom.(The only wheater available from the participating liquor store is Maker's Mark, but that will do fine, I think.)

Sadly, the information I got second hand from the distributor was that the 11 yo "might" be from "Hirsch," and the 16 yo from "Sazarac."

Of course, that's entirely useless non-information. Are there any better guesses here?

I've never tasted either, but I've read the comments in this thread and in some others I found through the search. Anyone have any other comments that they think might be of use? I'll try to get a sample of each before the talk, but the distributor is bringing them that day, as I understand it.

Jeff

[fiend]

This is my first post and I am looking for some confirmation on BMH bourbon.

Please excuse my newbie questions, I know nothing of bourbon, i'm a craft beer guy.

My girlfriend's Dad is quite the bourbon afficionado(sp?) and ran across this bourbon while we were on vacation in Baltimore. The bottle he purchased was the 14 yr old and said it was the best thing he has ever tasted.

So far from my searches on this website I have gathered:

BMH is a fictitious company and uses other companies Whiskey's and outsources the bottling? Is this common?

It is a wheat recipe? What does that entail?

It was bottled in two different places, Lawrenceton was the older place and now in Bardstown?

Any other information I have missed or that is incorrect please correct me.

Also Virginia's liquor laws suck, we are state controlled and to order a special item we have to order it by the case and they charge 20%+ extra than it actually costs. Where is the best place to order it online, we have friends in WV who would be willing to receive the package for us and bring it next time we are there.

Thanks

Jon

[wadewood]

The brand is owned by:

CVI Brands, Inc.

Owner: Paul Joseph

San Carlos, CA

650-595-1768

The brand owner controls the marketing of the product. They have a taste profile that the Bottler selects bourbon to match. This is not uncommon, but represents a very small part of overall bourbon sales.

It is currently bottled by Kentucky Bourbon Distillers, Ltd. This will have a Bardstown label.

Any label that has a Lawrenceburg address on it will be whiskey from when Julian Van Winkle was the bottler. However, this was prior to least summer of 2003. So, I doubt you will see this on the shelf.

I don't know the details of your state liquor laws. The large online retailers that ship to some states are Binny's and Sams (both in Chicago).