Poll. If you could have only one (distiller)

[dougdog]

Somebody has really drunk the Kulsveen Kool-Aid.

That would be me...

[dougdog]

drek

I learned a new word today...

And Chuck, you are not too harsh...you are exactly right...and as mentioned, they do business just like everyone else...they just don't do it with the whiskey they made...someone else made that drek.

[smile]

Keep up the good work Chuck!

Your friend,

dp

[TomH]

This choice was easy for me. I expanded from scotch to bourbon because of GTS and as the BTAC has expanded so has my love of BT.

Tom

[Hedmans Brorsa]

I went for Beam. None of their brands compete for my number one slot but apart from the unfortunate Basil Hayden, I think they have the most complete line-up.

The quality of their "cheap" bourbons are high, as well. Also, I think JB rye is unfairly maligned. Love it!

[dougdog]

The key is to be a knowledable consumer and know what you are getting for your money. And equally important is to get what you like... from whatever source.

John, you nailed it!...Isn't that TWO of the reasons we are all here on this wondeful site?

And now, after such a lengthy post, I find myself thirsty, and freash out of Kool-Aid!

And Chuck; I loved that post, it was the best laugh in a long time...I can see how I must "sound" when you put it that way...It's true, I think KBD has a good thing going, I'm a fan/groupie, sure....no shame in that for me. It's no secrete, if someday I live in Kentucky, I'd like to keep the grass mowed down at the distillery...actually, I'd enjoy working at any distillery that has the same attributes that were previously described in that post...Four Roses, BT and Wild Turkey come to mind...just to name a few. (If there is a more entry level job than mowin' lawns, I'll be glad to start there...)

[Gillman]

As someone (not alone on the board I know) with an interest in words and their history, I'll point out that drek or dreck is, as far as I know, one of the numerous Yiddish words that have entered English speech in America. Yiddish is derived mostly from a medieval form of German and many of its words share similar expressions in older or modern German and other European languages. When I thought about the word (which often is used humorously or in a non-serious way, e.g., "that movie I saw on Monday was real dreck"), the word "dreches" entered my mind, which in French means the spent grains from brewing, "les dreches". I don't know if there is an equivalent modern German word, but considering the German pre-eminence in brewing, there may be. I now wonder if the English "dregs" doesn't have the same root. So the word dreck may have an origin precisely in the mashing art which I find amusing considering the context of the discussion. Now why would a word such as dreches connote (at least in Yiddish and maybe other languages) something that is viewed less than favorably? After all spent grains are a valuable animal feed. I think the answer may reside in the fact that they have no alcohol in them.

Gary

[Hedmans Brorsa]

The word 'Dreck' is indeed alive and well in the German language. It means crap or rubbish.

I am pretty sure that it is related to the Swedish word 'träck', which is a formal, perhaps even archaic word for faeces. :grin:

I am no philologist so whether there´s a connection between dreck and dregs, I do not know. The word 'dreg' probably goes back to Old Norse and means sediment but is also a pejorative term for riff-faff. The Swedish equivalent is 'drägg'.

[Gillman]

Thanks Lenart. All these words seem related and probably share a common Indo-European root word or origin. No doubt its meaning of spent mash is a spin-off one and not the original meaning.

I should say though, or reiterate, that as used in American English, the word dreck has a meaning less offensive than the word's origins would suggest and/or the term is usually used in a semi-serious or lighthearted way.

Gary

[BobA]

I finally voted BT. Just too many pours I'd miss if they closed up.

Bob

[photogjunkie]

I'd have to go with the Van Winkle products. Though BT has a great line up of boubons I love...VW makes better quality, better tasting, dollar for dollar expressions than anyone. Though the BT antiques, WT gold foil and Rare Breed have a special place in my heart, I must follow my better judgement and make the turn at the Pappy road crossroads.

[Thesh]

When I can't make a choice, I fall back to Wild Turkey. I love a bit of rye, but to be honest I would quickly get bored if I had to pick one. I really need variety.

[Stu]

I'm going to show what a real novice I am. My favorite bourbons so far are (not necessarily in order) Four Roses SB, EC 18 SB, Kentucky Spirit, and Maker's Mark. Since no one has said a kind word about Four Roses, they got my vote. Like I said, I admit I'm a novice.

How do you get a spell check on the posts?

Stu

[Stu]

I'm going to show what a real novice I am. My favorite bourbons so far are (not necessarily in order) Four Roses SB, EC 18 SB, Kentucky Spirit, and Maker's Mark. Since no one has said a kind word about Four Roses, they got my vote. Like I said, I admit I'm a novice.

How do you get a spell check on the posts?

Stu

[bluesbassdad]

Look in the upper, right-hand area above the dialogue box where you type a post.

Click the checkmark with the letters "ABC" above it. Follow the directions for downloading the spellcheck software (as I did seconds ago). Viola!

The next time you click that icon, the newly installed spellcheck tool will pop up. I tried it in the Test Track forum. It works.

Yours truly,

Dave Morefield

[nor02lei]

Look in the upper, right-hand area above the dialogue box where you type a post.

Click the checkmark with the letters "ABC" above it. Follow the directions for downloading the spellcheck software (as I did seconds ago). Viola!

The next time you click that icon, the newly installed spellcheck tool will pop up. I tried it in the Test Track forum. It works.

Yours truly,

Dave Morefield

There is no such thing on my forum Dave. I should really need it though.

Leif

[barturtle]

Think I figured this out, Leif. You seem to be using the basic text editor. One with no smilies or font buttons above the text box. To get the spell check button you need to change to either of the other two text editor options.

How-To:

Go to your UserCP

Click Edit Options.

Scroll down a bit to the Miscellaneous Options box

Change the Message Editor interface to either Advanced or Standard

Then save your changes-button right below that box.

Now you should have a spell check button, in both quick reply and the full post reply screens

[Stu]

Thanks Dave,

It works for me!

Stu

[ILLfarmboy]

Even though it would mean no more Stagg etc. I would choose Wild Turkey. WT101 and RB are to me the quintessential bourbon(s).

[ggilbertva]

Would have to be BT. While I like WT very much, I appreciate the multiple recipes that BT uses to produce their wide range of bourbons.

[JeffRenner]

All these words seem related and probably share a common Indo-European root word or origin.

The OED doesn't take the root of dreg(s) back that far:

dreg, sb. [Probably from Norse: cf. Icel. dreggjar pl., Sw. drägg pl. dregs, lees. ]

And for dreck (with a surprisingly recent 1922 as a first citation in English):

dreck drek. slang. Also drek. [a. Yiddish drek (G. dreck) filth, dregs, dung, f. MHG. drec:-Gmc. *þrekka- repr. by OE. þreax rubbish, rottenness, ONor. þrekkr, OFris. threkk. Ult. origin uncertain but connection with Gr. skatoj dung, sterganoj privy, L. stercus excrement is generally accepted. ]

Note that it does give "dregs" as a synonym.

Also interesting that may be related to the Greek skatoj (which gives us scatology). It always amazes me how sounds can change.

Jeff

[Frodo]

My vote goes to BTby a country mile. The only line-ups we get many expressions of up here are BT and Beam. And BT has great mid-shelf bourbons, as well as the BTAC - all at great price points.

Too bad we only have the regular 40 proof WT. Have tried WTRB, and I liked it, but no other expressions I could get. Hat's off to Heaven Hill for the great EC 12 and a reasonably priced Rittenhouse Rye...

[Chaz7]

I had considered signing on with an alias, because I had two that were very difficult to choose from. Talk about Sophie's Choice! But I went with VW ever so slightly more than BT.

[shoshani]

Unfortunately, I can't limit myself to one, and am thus disqualified from voting!

The two that I would vote for, were I able to vote for two, would be BT and HH, because each one produces quite an amazing range. BT in particular, from the almost confectionary Rock Hill Farms to the drier Ancient Age 107 to the wheated Weller lines, has quite a kaleidoscope. And HH, with Elijah and Henry on one end of the table, its wheated Old Fitz on the other end, and the stupendous Rittenhouse BIB in the middle, has plenty of bases covered as well.

Talk is one thing; I'm actually at the moment drinking some Old Willamsburg Barrel Proof (121.5) someone gave me, trying to guess where it comes from. It isn't overly complex, so it's probably from a high corn mashbill, and from its light color I'm guessing it came either from a lighter char barrel or it spent a minimum of time (no age statement on the bottle) therein. The boilerplate on the back actually suggests that the rectifier may well be mingling the products of different distilleries...

[MurphyDawg]

a neck and neck toss up between wild turkey and van winkle. I adore them both.

TomC

[drli]

Buffalo Trace... Everything they sell is good! I have shirts... and i use the key chain... need i say more!!