Pappy Van Winkle 20 yr old Fam Reserve

[wildcatdon]

I just had some of this at my neighbors house the other night and it is the best bourbon I have ever had in my life..Bar none..Exquisite flavor both straight and on the rocks...Just fabulous...Wish I could afford my own bottle...If you havent had it,try it ....Wow!!!

[mozilla]

Everything that VanWinkle puts into a bottle is of the same class as the 20yr. Glad you enjoyed it so much.

[Solomon2]

How does the 20 compare to the 12yo Lot B?

[Empty Glass]

It's worth every last penny and more. I enjoy PVW20 far more than lot b but I always keep lot b on hand.

[luv2hunt]

How does the 20 compare to the 12yo Lot B?

Ask yourself what "more time in the wood" does to bourbon.....and you will have your answer.

[Solomon2]

Some day my Hirsch 16-year gold wax will be gone. I must find a worthy substitute. Lot B seems timid by comparison...

[Barrel_Proof]

Some day my Hirsch 16-year gold wax will be gone. I must find a worthy substitute. Lot B seems timid by comparison...

You may, down the line, just have to buy the occasional Michter decanter on eBay and engage in some wishful whiskey aging!

[bigtoys]

I just had some of this at my neighbors house the other night and it is the best bourbon I have ever had in my life..Bar none..Exquisite flavor both straight and on the rocks...Just fabulous...Wish I could afford my own bottle...If you havent had it,try it ....Wow!!!

It's my favorite and several of my friends', too. Another good van Winkle product is the special bourbon they make for Blue Smoke restaurant in NYC; I was there last week and had 2 glasses (neat) with some excellent BBQ brisket. Jazz club attached, too. Check this link..

http://www.bluesmoke.com/blue/secondary/aboutushg.html

Although it's kind of strong, I'm looking forward to the next release of PVW 23 yr old, too.

[luv2hunt]

Some day my Hirsch 16-year gold wax will be gone. I must find a worthy substitute. Lot B seems timid by comparison...

The Hirsch 16yr gold foil is still available......stock up! (Duh!)

[wildcatdon]

I think the 20 yr old is much better than Lot B..

[camduncan]

The Hirsch 16yr gold foil is still available......stock up! (Duh!)

Some ex-pat Aussie living in the US bought up all the remaining Hirsch (red wax I think) in Australia from the single outlet that was selling it (about a case worth).... I was planning on getting a couple of bottles before it all went :hot:

....and, in some great news, the single outlet store that sells Pappy 20 has dropped the price from $400 AU to $300 AU a bottle ($270 US)

They still have Lot B at $135 a bottle, but I have two of those already in my stash.

[gblick]

How does the 20 compare to the 12yo Lot B?

I couldn't answer that because I've never tried the Pappy 20. But IMO the Pappy 15 is a lot better than the Lot B, and it only costs a few dollars more.

[HighTower]

Some ex-pat Aussie living in the US bought up all the remaining Hirsch (red wax I think) in Australia from the single outlet that was selling it (about a case worth).... I was planning on getting a couple of bottles before it all went :hot:

Cam, they were only the lowly gold-foil bottles :grin:

You still want one?

Scott

[luv2hunt]

Cam, they were only the lowly gold-foil bottles :grin:

You still want one?

Scott

You should have know that Scott bought them!! LOL!!

[HighTower]

I certainly didn't buy the case, Dawn!

I got some from there earlier before it went. As I have mentioned in previous posts, this bourbon does nothing for me at all.

Scott

[camduncan]

I look like I may have found one last bottle thanks to Scott. I've tasted his open bottle, as well as an open bottle at a local "New York" style cocktail bar. Both times it was probably drink #9 or 10 on a fairly big drinking and tasting night, so my memory of its taste isn't that great. I need to sit down and try some on its own, prior to having any other drinks...in other words, a proper taste.

I do have some hesitation, because I know Scott doesn't like his bottle, and, apart from his love of Wild Turkey, we both have similar likes in bourbon.

[camduncan]

Now back to the Pappy 20yo......

I was lucky enough to try this on the same night I tried the Hirsch...

Same problem applies. I think just prior to trying the Pappy, Scott had served up Canadian Club 18yo and Vanilla Coke to accompany a bbq dinner...so my palate had gone to sleep. The Pappy nearly blew my taste buds away after the sweet CC drink.

Re-visiting the Pappy is a priority of mine as I've liked all of the 10yo, 12yo Lot B, 13yo Rye and 15yo bottles that I've tried.

[jburlowski]

Another (perhaps) minority opinion, I believe the 15 yo is better than the 20 yo.

[heatmiser]

I may be in the minority as well, but I believe the PVW15 is better than the PVW20.

[doubleblank]

These really aren't contrary opinions at all. Many of us here, including myselfenjoy their bourbons at lower ages and/or proofs. Pappy 15 is better to my taste than Pappy 20 on most nights. EC 18 is too woody to me.....I prefer HH's younger products. The only "extra aged" bourbons I have enjoyed recently are the SB.com SB's of Pappy 23.......not as woody as the regular 23yo bottling, to my taste. Most nights, I would buy two Pappy 15's in lieu of a Pappy 20. But both are in the bar.

Randy

[tnfootball419]

I have an old unopened bottle of bourbon and on the label all it says is very rare collectors item aged 20 years genuine old style sour mash bottled in KY by dowling distillers i cant find out anything about this bottle or the distillery i have searched everywhere im trying to figure out if i want to taste it, sell it or hold on to it

[doubleblank]

Those old "Collector's Item"....."Dowling's Deluxe"...etc with the netting around the bottle are fairly common on ebay and can occasionally be found on the shelf. The whiskey came from various distilleries and was bottled at Julian's former "Commonwealth" facility. I have a 16yo and a 20yo in my collection. Most are BIB's, so they state the DSP number where distilled and bottled. It may be decent whiskey.....I haven't opened any of mine. Tasted one a while back and was OK. Use the "Search" function and enter "collectible"....Or Dowling and you can find other info.

Randy

[TNbourbon]

I have an old unopened bottle of bourbon and on the label all it says is very rare collectors item aged 20 years genuine old style sour mash bottled in KY by dowling distillers i cant find out anything about this bottle or the distillery i have searched everywhere im trying to figure out if i want to taste it, sell it or hold on to it

You've posted this in THREE seperate fora (some of which have been deleted by moderators, I understand). Fair or not, that kinda marks you as a 'marketer'. This isn't really a trading forum -- most of the members here generally enjoy DRINKING whiskey.

That's not to say you won't get messages requesting info or offering trades/buys. But it pisses the long-time 'cadre' here royally when someone drops in, doesn't search, ignores the "New to StraightBourbon" threads, and starts wondering about 'value'.

Or, maybe, I'm just my recently-usual cranky self.:smiley_acbt:

[bluesbassdad]

Tim,

I'm on Zoloft, and he pissed me off, too.

Reminds me of visiting with a neighbor on the front porch and having someone who just moved into the neighborhood join us and turn the conversation to selling Amway.

Yours truly,

Dave Morefield

[ILLfarmboy]

Someone who is only interested in how much they can get for a bottle of sought after whiskey is worse than someone who is only interested in how much absolute alcohol they can get for x amount of dollars. At least the 40 year old adolescent who views a bottle of booze as little more to a means to an end is genuinely interested in what's in the bottle.