Rank the wheated bourbons.

[fog]

Please rank the wheated bourbons currently being produced from your favorite to least favorite.

[jbaker]

A good topic. I wish I knew more readily which were which. I was going to propose a forum to delineate which current recipes fall into which category. Maybe I should start that? Or is there something already out there?

[jwrussell]

Well, it's easy for me as I have very little experience with the Wheaters.

William Larue Weller 2007 (BTAC)

Lot B

Makers Mark

[OscarV]

Let's start by listing all the wheaters first, I'll start with what I know.

* = no longer available

William Larue Weller 2005 BTAC *

William Larue Weller 2006 BTAC *

William Larue Weller 2007 BTAC

W L Weller 12 yo

W L Weller Special Reserve

W L Weller Centennial

Old Weller Antique

Old Rip Van Winkle 15yo 107 *

Old Rip Van Winkle 10yo 107

Old Rip Van Winkle 10yo 90

Pappy Van Winkle 23yo

Pappy Van Winkle 20yo

Pappy Van Winkle 15yo

Van Winkle Special Reserve Lot "B"

Very Special Old Fitzgerald 12yo

Old Fitzgerald 1849

Old Fitzgerald Bottled In Bond

Maker's Mark

Virginia Gentleman

Rebel Yell

Some one help me out, are the last two wheater's?

[NickAtMartinis]

Some one help me out, are the last two wheater's?

I'm not sure but you've drunk mucho wheated bourbon.:grin:

Edit:

Let's start by listing all the wheaters first, I'll start with what I know.

Nevermind Oscar, I'm stupid.

[spun_cookie]

Pappy Van Winkle 23yo (B version)

William Larue Weller 2005 BTAC

Pappy Van Winkle 23yo (A Version)

William Larue Weller 2006 BTAC

Pappy Van Winkle 20yo

W L Weller Centennial

William Larue Weller 2007 BTAC

W L Weller Special Reserve

Van Winkle Special Reserve Lot "B"

Pappy Van Winkle 15yo

Old Weller Antique

Old Rip Van Winkle 15yo 107

Old Rip Van Winkle 10yo 107

Old Rip Van Winkle 10yo 90

Very Special Old Fitzgerald 12yo

Maker's Mark

Others I cannot recall... I'll add later... (thanks for the List Oscar)

[TomH]

My order of preference

ORVW 15/107

Pappy 15

WLW BTAC 2006

WLW BTAC 2005/2007

Pappy 20

Weller 12 (Everett's)

Pappy 23

Van Winkle Lot B

Weller Centenial

Weller 12

ORVW 10

Tom

[gothbat]

PVW23 (SB barrel 2)

PVW20

'06 WLW

VOF*

W.L. Weller Centennial

OF: BIB*

VWSR12 (current)

W.L. Weller Antique 107

ORVW10 107 (current)

PVW15 (current)

MM

ORVW10 90 (current)

'07 WLW

W.L. Weller Special Reserve

I'm quite sure I tried a few more than what I listed but I can't remember them all. Since wheat is my favorite kind of bourbon I'll say that the ones at the bottom of my list aren't as bad as their position would imply. Where I ranking all of the bourbon I tried I think that most of these would be in the top 50%.

Isn't there a W.L. Weller 19 from the BTAC's of years past?

[StraightBoston]

Don't forget some of Julian's variations (all out of print):

Old Commonwealth *

Delilah's 10yo *

Twisted Spoke *

For the MO tasters:

David Nicholson 1843

For overseas:

Maker's Mark 95pf (black wax) *

Maker's Mark 101pf (gold wax) *

I.W. Harper President's Reserve *

And I think Oscar missed:

Old Fitzgerald Prime 86pf *

Old Fitzgerald Prime 80pf

(I'll post my ranking when I get back home to my tasting notes...)

[LarryG]

Virginia Gentleman

Rebel Yell

Some one help me out, are the last two wheater's?

Don't know about Virginia Gentleman, but Rebel Yell is. I distinctly remember reading that here on SB.com shortly after passing over some RY in a store, not realizing it was a wheater.

An interesting and enlightening thread, for those of us who are still in the early stages of our journey through the wide world of bourbon ...

Larry

[Gillman]

Just for information purposes, www.asmithbowman.com states that VG is made from "corn, rye and malted barley".

Gary

[doubleblank]

Also, just for information purposes, Julian did many other bottlings not yet mentioned using wheated bourbon that are no longer produced. I have an Old Rip 12yo/105 proof that is excellent. Then there's the Blue Smoke 18yo, Berghoff 14yo, etc etc.

Julian brought one of his unique bottlings, his personal favorite, to the Gazebo and shared it with us several years ago. It was a 14yo (or 16yo) from early '70's SW bourbon. Most of us concured, it was at or near the top of the best SW whiskeys we had ever tasted.

It would be difficult (impossible?) to make a complete list of all wheated bourbon bottlings if we include these out of production examples.

Randy

[Gillman]

Randy's modesty prevents him from mentioning "Van Blankle", a single barrel bottling of Lot "B" he commissioned and kindly gifted to all who asked. And it's a fine whiskey to boot.

Gary

[scopenut]

I'm one of the seemingly few who prefer wheaters (by a slight margin). Ranking the ones I've tried:

Pappy 15/107

WLW BTAC 2006

ORVW 10/107

Pappy 20

WLW BTAC 2005

WLW BTAC 2007

Pappy 23

Weller Centennial

Weller 12

Van Winkle Lot B

-Kevin

[fogfrog]

whats BTAC?

Also, I noticed for Old Fitz at the store that the BIB is a lot more than the 80 proof in price. also, hows the 1849? Don't know which one to buy.....

[NickAtMartinis]

I'm one of the seemingly few who prefer wheaters (by a slight margin).

Actually, I think you're one of many.

[NickAtMartinis]

whats BTAC?

Also, I noticed for Old Fitz at the store that the BIB is a lot more than the 80 proof in price. also, hows the 1849? Don't know which one to buy.....

BTAC is an acronym for Buffalo Trace Antique Collection. It is a collection of bourbon that is put out usually every fall by BT. It consists of Sazerac Rye, Thomas Handy Rye, Eagle Rare and George T. Stagg.

As for Old Fitz, the BIB would be more since the proof is 100. I've never tried the 1849 myself. But my suggestion is to buy the BIB. I have a current bottle and it's a good wheated bourbon. A one liter bottle cost me $19.99, I believe.

[OscarV]

How about Society Of Bourbon Connoisseurs, Twisted Spoke, Old Commonwealth and the original Black Maple Hill's?

They were bottled by JVWIII, are they wheaters?

[nor02lei]

There is a hell of a lot of good ones. If I have to pick one I think it would be WLW-06. To hard to rank after that.

Leif

[jburlowski]

BTAC is an acronym for Buffalo Trace Antique Collection. It is a collection of bourbon that is put out usually every fall by BT. It consists of Sazerac Rye, Thomas Handy Rye, Eagle Rare and George T. Stagg.quote]

... and William Larue Weller.

[jbaker]

I'm one of the seemingly few who prefer wheaters (by a slight margin).

I'm with you Kevin and Nick!

[NickAtMartinis]

BTAC is an acronym for Buffalo Trace Antique Collection. It is a collection of bourbon that is put out usually every fall by BT. It consists of Sazerac Rye, Thomas Handy Rye, Eagle Rare and George T. Stagg.quote]

... and William Larue Weller.

Thanks, John. Missed it.

[ggilbertva]

Well, if you hadn't put the condition that the list be current, my list would be longer.

WLW '06

Pappy 15

ORVW 10

Weller Antique

Weller 12 (Binny's)

As for older/out of production, my top favorite is SW Old Fitz BIB, followed by ORVW 15

[JamesW]

Hi Folks,

This was the thread that got me to finally sign up here. The wheated are my favorite!

PVW 15

PVW 20

Weller Centennial 13 year "Julio's"

RVWFR "lot b"

Weller Antique 107

going to try some ORVW 10/107 this weekend as I'm doing a bourbon run with a buddy to Boston (about 2 hrs away) Anyone think it's worth $35 vs $19 for Weller Antique?

[NickAtMartinis]

Hi Folks,

This was the thread that got me to finally sign up here. The wheated are my favorite!

PVW 15

PVW 20

Weller Centennial 13 year "Julio's"

RVWFR "lot b"

Weller Antique 107

going to try some ORVW 10/107 this weekend as I'm doing a bourbon run with a buddy to Boston (about 2 hrs away) Anyone think it's worth $35 vs $19 for Weller Antique?

James, I would say it's worth buying one. At $35 for ORVW 10/107, that's more than steep. More like highway robbery. Here in CT, the highest I've seen it is $29.99. The lowest, $25.49. The store that had the latter price, I purchased four bottles. However, if you haven't tried it then, in my opinion, you've got to try it once. After that, if it's the same price, I'd say pass. But, it is better than the Antique. Those two are my every day pours, if ever I had one.

P.S. I agree with you that the 15 is better than the 20. This is just my opinion but I think the 10/107 is better than the 20.