wl weller 12 yr 45%

[leebo]

Saw a new bottle of this on the shelf today. Black label and a simlilar but different shape as the weller antique bottle. Is this new to the market? Anyone have some tasting notes on it? Priced at 40$.

[scopenut]

No, Weller 12 has been around for awhile. It's my favorite everyday pour, since it's available here for $23. At $40, I think I would pass, but it's still a great bourbon.

-Kevin

[TNbourbon]

Weller 12yo was created by Buffalo Trace when they acquired the Weller brand -- c. 1998, I think. It originally was bottled identically -- except, of course, for the labeling (which was still similar) to the Weller Special Reserve -- but the bottle was updated to the semi-potstill shape 12-18 months or so ago.

[TBoner]

Since we're on the subject, I finished off the night by cracking a bottle from early in the history of this bottling. Damn! Do we know if/for how long any S-W would have been included in Weller 12? This is rich with the classic cotton candy of S-W, and there's a nice Cracker Jack note on the finish, too. I don't have the palate that many of you do, but from what I can tell, this 1999 bottling is either Stitzel-Weller or the next best thing. Input, gents?

[TNbourbon]

Well, Tim -- as recently as 2005, we were selecting 12+-year-old bourbon for single-barrel bottling, and BT reportedly was still using occasional barrels in the 12yo blend. Probably never was exclusively S-W, though...

[TBoner]

Yeah, I knew there were the single-barrel offerings, but I wasn't sure if they were representative of the sort of barrels that typically went into Weller 12. Perhaps I've lucked out with this bottle, stumbling into a S-W-heavy batch. What a happy discovery...

[cigarnv]

Great bourbon and a great value.... I volly back and forth between the 12 and Antique..... siblings but quite different....both great pours for the $$$

[doubleblank]

Those SW barrels we purchased and had bottled as Weller 12 yo (four different barrels) had already been selected to be sold as Weller 12. I believe they just rolled out six barrels from their pool of "Weller 12" SW barrels. So I believe they are representative of the SW whiskey BT was using in their standard Weller 12. FYI, by the time the barrels got bottled they were closer to 13 1/2 years old.

Randy

[cowdery]

When BT does a single barrel bottling for a customer of a brand such as Weller 12 or Elmer T. Lee, they give the customer several barrels from which to choose, all of which already have been selected as suitable for that expression of the brand.

[Old Lamplighter]

No, Weller 12 has been around for awhile. It's my favorite everyday pour, since it's available here for $23. At $40, I think I would pass, but it's still a great bourbon.

-Kevin

I'll second Kevin. If I look hard enough, it can still be found in my parts for $19 + tax though normally it is around $21-25. It is some great stuff for $25 or less but certainly not $40. At $40, that is approaching "Pappy" territory which IMHO is hands-down better than any of the Weller bottlings (except perhaps WLW Antique 06) anytime, anywhere.

[leebo]

Thanks for the info,I may shop around for price.

[Old Lamplighter]

Thanks for the info,I may shop around for price.

Best of luck to you. Hopefully, you will find one in the lower $$ ranges. It is quite good for the right price. I will go so far to say that it is one of the best bargains in bourbon for <$20 and a still a very good buy for $20-25.

[drunkenjayhawk]

I just purchased a 12 yo W. L. Weller for 24 or 25 dollars one liter size at my favortie liquor store this week. I thought I had heard it was to be discontinued by BT , if so I will pickup a couple more bottles or more. :cool:

[OscarV]

I don't think they are going to drop the WLW12yo.

The Centennial is history and rumor has it the Antique 107 may go.

[gblick]

..rumor has it the Antique 107 may go.

Man, y'all need to quit saying this!

Chuck 'casually' said it once just days ago, and now I've seen several people repeat the same thing. The Weller Antique 107 is not going away! You've got to think positive and affirm that.

BT would be making a HUGE mistake if they discontinued the Weller Antique 107!

[OscarV]

I agree but they have already made two super huge mistakes by dropping Weller Centennial and Eagle Rare 101.

But I am basing that on taste not their profit margins.

[barturtle]

I agree but they have already made two super huge mistakes by dropping Weller Centennial and Eagle Rare 101.

But I am basing that on taste not their profit margins.

List of products gone missing in the last few from BT:

Weller Centennial 10yo

Eagle Rare 10yo 101

Old Charter 7yo BIB

Old Charter Proprietors Reserve 13yo

Old Charter 12yo

Age Statement on Benchmark has gone missing, too.

[TBoner]

A depressing list.

I think I'll have a Sam Smith Nut Brown Ale.

[CorvallisCracker]

Man, y'all need to quit saying this!

Chuck 'casually' said it once just days ago, and now I've seen several people repeat the same thing. The Weller Antique 107 is not going away! You've got to think positive and affirm that.

Okay everybody, sit on floor, cross-legged. Wrists on knees, thumb touching middle finger, and repeat:

"Oom-padme-nae, Weller Antique ain't goin' away. Oom-padme-nae, Weller Antique ain't going away."

(No Gus, I'm not making fun of you. It's just that in my experience very few things have happened just because I wanted them to)

BT would be making a HUGE mistake if they discontinued the Weller Antique 107!

For us, yes. For them, not necessarily.

As for me, I'll be stocking up on it. If nothing else, it'll save me some bucks, because the one thing we can be absolutely sure of is that if it does stay on the market, the price will be going up.

[cowdery]

Just to clear the air on this, I have no inside information and there have been zero inklings from BT about Antique going away. I have heard nothing. The speculation is entirely my own, a little tea-leaf reading, but it's 100% based on observing certain patterns, not on anything I've heard. No one has dropped any hints. Nothing.

My analysis is simply that BT has inherited a proliferation of brands and a proliferation of expressions within those brands, to which it has added a couple (such as Weller 12) that it thought better expressed what it wanted to do with the line. Dropping Centennial was a no-brainer. Antique would be a harder cut. Since Antique is the same age as Special Reserve, which has long been the flagship of the Weller line, the reason for its existence is the higher proof. In this era of tight supplies, high proof brands at value prices may (note may) be a luxury BT feels it no longer can afford.

But, as I said, that's just my speculation.

If you want to worry about something, worry about the doubling of the price of Special Reserve upon its introduction to Ohio.

[spun_cookie]

List of products gone missing in the last few from BT:

Weller Centennial 10yo

Eagle Rare 10yo 101

Old Charter 7yo BIB

Old Charter Proprietors Reserve 13yo

Old Charter 12yo

Age Statement on Benchmark has gone missing, too.

:cry: ........... ...........

[jeff]

List of products gone missing in the last few from BT:

Weller Centennial 10yo

Eagle Rare 10yo 101

Old Charter 7yo BIB

Old Charter Proprietors Reserve 13yo

Old Charter 12yo

Age Statement on Benchmark has gone missing, too.

Thanks Tim, I had almost gotten over the pain of losing OCPR, but now it hurts again! :cry:

[smokinjoe]

Thanks Tim, I had almost gotten over the pain of losing OCPR, but now it hurts again! :cry:

OCPR! Of the list, that's the one that particularly saddens me.

JOE

[barturtle]

Thanks Tim, I had almost gotten over the pain of losing OCPR, but now it hurts again! :cry:

Just remember, though we praise BT for many of their products, they have also done things that aren't exactly praise-worthy....I'm just trying to keep everything in perspective.

[gblick]

(No Gus, I'm not making fun of you. It's just that in my experience very few things have happened just because I wanted them to)

I agree, but I'm not wanting something to happen.

My main point was that repeated statements about something happening, as if in acceptance that it has already happened (which it hasn't, and won't ), can't help.