What Bourbon Did You Purchase Today? Summer 2009

[gblick]

It seems like the 06 bottles are slightly more tasty than the 07/08 bottles but that's probably purely psychological, based on the fact that they are more difficult to find. Still, I agree that the 06 seem to have a slightly more enjoyable profile.

I agree that the '06 OWA (and earlier of course) is better than the '07-'09, at least for the few bottles of each that I've had, and I don't think it's psychological. They are all still good, though.

[happy hooligan]

just wanted to say this is a great thread! I'm just getting into Bourbon and have really learned quite a bit!

[sailor22]

Found and bought a Black Maple Hill 21yr and a ORVW 15/107.

[OscarV]

Found and bought a Black Maple Hill 21yr and a ORVW 15/107.

Wow! What a way to score. Especially the ORVW 15/107.

[IronHead]

Found and bought a Black Maple Hill 21yr and a ORVW 15/107.

Nice find! I picked up a 4R Mariage, an EC18 and an AAA 10 today.

Also, good to hear the comments about the '06 OWA since I picked up 4 litre bottles of it last week during the panic:skep:

[sailor22]

That's the first 15/107 I have ever gotten my hands on - I have been sipping a sample a friend gave me and that is some mighty fine juice.

[IronHead]

That's the first 15/107 I have ever gotten my hands on - I have been sipping a sample a friend gave me and that is some mighty fine juice.

Well you've gotten your hands on exactly one more than me. Enjoy!

[The Boozer]

Surprised that there has not been more discussion / panic regarding the recent dropping of the age statement on the OWA 107, 7 yr bottle. Does anybody really think that somewhere down the road BT is not going to put younger juice in the new bottle? Picked up 3 bottles of the old label stuff, looking for more to bunker. Also picked up a WLW and Handy (thanks Josh for the info - will share of course)

TJ

[OscarV]

Surprised that there has not been more discussion / panic regarding the recent dropping of the age statement on the OWA 107, 7 yr bottle. Does anybody really think that somewhere down the road BT is not going to put younger juice in the new bottle?

Probably because OWA 7/107 was so inconsistent.

I have posted several times that I would never be without a bottle and that I would never buy another bottle.

OWA was always at the bottom of all the Weller offerings IMHO and a lot of others agreed.

[The Boozer]

Like it better than the SR (maybe more flavor kick and higher proof) and the 12 yr is not available in MI. Like the price point and haven't found it to be more or less inconsistent than other bourbons. For me, some days the taste buds are not working as well as other days. Blame my taste buds more than the bottle.

TJ

[ggilbertva]

Surprised that there has not been more discussion / panic regarding the recent dropping of the age statement on the OWA 107, 7 yr bottle. Does anybody really think that somewhere down the road BT is not going to put younger juice in the new bottle? Picked up 3 bottles of the old label stuff, looking for more to bunker. Also picked up a WLW and Handy (thanks Josh for the info - will share of course)

TJ

I did my fair share of ranting on my blog about the age statement drop. I did a lineup of various OWA the other night that included bottles from '95, '02, '04, '05 and '07. Of course the '95 was SW and was fabulous, my next favorite was the '04. It was well balanced, shades of wood on the palate and a nice bright burst of flavor on entry and the finish was quite nice. I'm working on getting a couple handles right now.

[OscarV]

For me, some days the taste buds are not working as well as other days. Blame my taste buds more than the bottle.

Don't sell yourself short, I can't be that way off and on base.

[onmytrack]

Surprised that there has not been more discussion / panic regarding the recent dropping of the age statement on the OWA 107, 7 yr bottle. TJ

Too busy out buying as much OWA as I can find. I already hit the panic button. Bought 4 last Monday. $16.49 each and I like it better than Weller 12 anyway. Passed on 2 bottles of '08 last night, they were $20.99 each. I can do better that that. Out looking again tonight.

Jim

[callmeox]

I asked at BT and was told that the Antique and Special Reserve are dumped from the same 7yo barrels at the same time. Some is diverted and cut to 107 for OWA and the rest is cut to 90 for SR.

The neck label change was due to real estate and the new bottle. The neck tag on the new bottle can only be so big due to the shape of the neck. They decided that the proof was more important than the age on OWA so that's what they retained.

If the SR ever loses its age statement, then we can worry.

[The Boozer]

Picked up 3 more bottles of OWA 107 with age statements today, along with a bottle of OF birthday bourbon. Haven’t had this yet but looking forward trying it, based on comments in the past. Speaking of inconsistent, seems that there a couple of bourbons that have this alleged problem, namely EC12 yr and to a lesser extent OGD 114. I say alleged because I like both a lot and not really ever had a problem.

TJ

[George]

Just picked up a bottle of EC 12. My last one was so good, I had to replace it. I'm hoping this one is just as good.

[BBQ+Bourbon]

The last couple of days were good for my collection. Wednesday I picked up the last 06 OWA from a country store at $16.99, Thursday I picked up a current Weller 12 Year at a small store for $15.xx and today I picked up a Fighting Cock as well as an OGD 114.

But the big score came tonight. Erich was kind enough to tell me where the bottle of Pappy 20 year was that he mentioned in another thread. Since it's 200 miles away, I had my aunt pick it up and she'll see another aunt tomorrow who will give it to my dad. I'll see him two weeks from today and the relay will be complete!

That bottle may sealed until his 60th birthday next June.

Passed up two bottles of Jefferson Presidential Reserve lot 2 tonight. I want to add a few to the collection, but $81.99 is out of line. I have someboy working on getting them for quite a bit less.

[Rughi]

The neck label change was due to real estate and the new bottle. The neck tag on the new bottle can only be so big due to the shape of the neck. They decided that the proof was more important than the age on OWA so that's what they retained...

To think that BT, the smartest distillery in turning a hohum operation with good whiskey in the warehouse into pure gold, didn't think their clientele would notice or care about decontenting this product is barely believable to me. I found the NAS move disheartening, but the explanation you were given insulting.

Having just read that the entire state of Viginia has been cleaned out in just THIS WEEK shows people did notice and did care.

Roger

[Virus_Of_Life]

To think that BT, the smartest distillery in turning a hohum operation with good whiskey in the warehouse into pure gold, didn't think their clientele would notice or care about decontenting this product is barely believable to me. I found the NAS move disheartening, but the explanation you were given insulting.

Having just read that the entire state of Viginia has been cleaned out in just THIS WEEK shows people did notice and did care.

Roger

I'll admit I've been more preoccupied with my motorcycle lately and drinking a lot less bourbon, alcohol in general, than I was; however I have to ask anyway Weller Antique is now NAS?!??! IS that what I'm catching???? What a bunch of CRAP. Change the 12 to 10 year, make the SR NAS - if they even still make that? - anything but dropping the age on Antique!

[ErichPryde]

Speaking of inconsistent, seems that there a couple of bourbons that have this alleged problem, namely EC12 yr...

This may have something to do with the fact that some of the bottles out in 2008 and 2009 were either from different warehouses than normal, or they were barreled at Jim Beam. I know that after the late 96 fire some of the Heaven Hill stuff got barreled at Beam until HH could recover.

[ErichPryde]

Change the 12 to 10 year...anything but dropping the age on Antique!

Maybe that would improve the 12 year. or, they could just bring back the centennial...

[Rughi]

This may have something to do with the fact that some of the bottles out in 2008 and 2009 were either from different warehouses than normal, or they were barreled at Jim Beam. I know that after the late 96 fire some of the Heaven Hill stuff got barreled at Beam until HH could recover.

I believe after the fire that Beam, Brown Forman and one other (Wild Turkey?) distilled for HH, but I think they trucked the white dog out right away for barreling and aging at DSP 31. I don't believe I've ever read an outright statement where the barreling took place, though, I just thought that was the case.

Roger

[ErichPryde]

I believe after the fire that Beam, Brown Forman and one other (Wild Turkey?) distilled for HH, but I think they trucked the white dog out right away for barreling and aging at DSP 31. I don't believe I've ever read an outright statement where the barreling took place, though, I just thought that was the case.

Roger

you may be right. I'll have to do a bit of research...

[ErichPryde]

here is where I got that idea-

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=89270&postcount=9

I may have gotten slightly ahead of myself, but at the very least some of the Evan Williams Single Barrel was actually aged at Jim Beam. thank you for the additional information, though... I was 13 at the time of the fire, and for some reason it didn't occur to me to be interested in whiskey history then.

[Rughi]

here is where I got that idea-

http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=89270&postcount=9

I may have gotten slightly ahead of myself, but at the very least some of the Evan Williams Single Barrel was actually aged at Jim Beam. thank you for the additional information, though... I was 13 at the time of the fire, and for some reason it didn't occur to me to be interested in whiskey history then.

I didn't read Chuck's remark to be very specific about barreling and aging. Perhaps he could clarify his thoughts, but also there are more direct resources to answer these types of questions.

I followed that link to the previous discussion referred to in post 5. In that thread I had advanced the idea that white dog was taken by truck to HH immediately after barreling. This technicality wasn't the focus of the thread, but Bettye Jo remarks in post 23 about how HH easily barrels 500 a day (or is it bottles 500 barrels a day?), and doesn't remark about HH having their distilling friends barrel and/or age the HH whiskey, so this is probably why I've thought since then that that white dog arrived in tankers at DSP 31, but we still don't really know for sure. Perhaps Bettye Jo will share her eyewitness experience.

Roger