dbk Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Brown-Forman is poised to launch a new Canadian whisky: Collingwood.Collingwood is undoubtedly produced by Brown-Forman's Canadian Mist distillery, and seems to be making use of the maple barrels from Woodford Reserve's most recent Masters Collection release. I checked the COLA registry, and there's no age statement. They're really pushing the maple wood finish—maple being prototypically "Canadian" to an outsider, I suppose—and the "smoothness" of the whisky, though they don't suggest you drink it neat ("can be enjoyed on the rocks or mixed in a whisky cocktail"). I'd be interested to hear any reviews, especially from the Canadian Mist drinkers out there, who might be uniquely positioned to compare it to the "house" product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRich Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I'm supposed to be getting a review sample this week. I'll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbk Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Great! Looking forward to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightNoChaser Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 My agency promotes this brand. While it's not my personal favorite, it sells rather well.As far as I can tell from our materials (which are admittedly vague) it appears that the maple is coming from the JD Distillery, i.e. they are using sugar maple charcoal. My coworker and I had a pretty long discussion about this last night actually. The original product description we received said charcoal, not "toasted" sugar maple, and was changed in the next iteration of descriptions. Guess they didn't want to step on their own toes? We're not sure. Regardless I wish I knew more because it feels odd selling a whisky you don't know in and out (like I do, for instance, WR or GJ/JDSB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightNoChaser Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Granted, I could be wrong. Using the maple barrels from the WRMCMF would be a lot cooler than charcoal. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the MF is a very limited release and Collingwood is a mass release. That's a lot of maple barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 When I first saw the image, I thought it was a bottle of cologne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightNoChaser Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 When I first saw the image, I thought it was a bottle of cologne. That's basically what everyone says during my promos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbk Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 it appears that the maple is coming from the JD Distillery, i.e. they are using sugar maple charcoal... The original product description we received said charcoal, not "toasted" sugar maple, and was changed in the next iteration of descriptions.Interesting. It could be marketing—pretending the maple charcoal is actually "toasted" maple—or it could have been an error in the original materials. Granted, I could be wrong. Using the maple barrels from the WRMCMF would be a lot cooler than charcoal. Just doesn't make a whole lot of sense since the MF is a very limited release and Collingwood is a mass release. That's a lot of maple barrels.True enough, but since the maple's just for finishing, there may be enough to go around. The WRMC barrels were toasted, so it fits the description. Moreover, Brown-Forman has its own cooperage, and could be making more barrels. But honestly, I don't know. It is intriguing that the story changed from charcoal to toasted sugar maple, but again it could just be due to an error in the initial materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 That's basically what everyone says during my promos My comment wasn't intended as a dig, just a first impression (tho' it's nice to hear it wasn't only me!) I'll be glad to try some if/when it becomes available in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggilbertva Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I'll be glad to try some if/when it becomes available in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorvallisCracker Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 ...maple being prototypically "Canadian" to an outsider, I suppose...I don't know. Maybe it's the flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbk Posted February 16, 2011 Author Share Posted February 16, 2011 Touché, Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The official description terminology is: "In Collingwood’s unique finishing step, the whisky rests with toasted Maplewood to complete its smooth character."That description excludes the Daniel's process, which uses Maple charcoal, not toasted Maplewood. It could mean they used the MC barrels, which were toasted, not charred. You kind of think if it involved actual barreling, though, the word "barrel" would have been used, but maybe not. They're being deliberately vague for some reason.It's also possible they are using toasted Maple chips after the whiskey has been tanked, or a process similar to Daniel's, but using toasted Maple chips rather than charcoal. I had an early taste of this and was asked to give my feedback. Here's what I wrote: "Maybe it was the mention of 'Maplewood mellowing' that suggested it, but I got a milder version of the overripe banana aroma I associate with Jack Daniel’s on the nose. No Jack on the palate. Buttery mouth feel. More flavorful than a typical Canadian but the flavors are soft, not sharp. Also less vanilla, more emphasis on fruit flavors like apricot. Almost liqueur-like in its richness."By contrast, their Canadian Mist Black Diamond, released last year, is more flavorful but the flavors are pretty sharp, indicative of the product's youth.The packaging suggests they're trying to appeal to a broad distilled spirits audience, not specifically Canadian whisky drinkers, and may even be trying to capture some of the micro-distillery cachet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I have some answers from Brown-Forman. Collingwood is the town in Ontario where the Canadian Mist Distillery is located. They are making barrels from Maple wood and toasting them at the Brown-Forman Cooperage in Louisville. The barrels are similar to what they used for Woodford but they're not saying it's actually those barrels. No reason it can't be."These barrels are then disassembled and shipped to Collingwood, where they are added to the final blend of the Collingwood Whisky, imparting their toasted Maplewood character, for a time that is determined by our Master Distiller/Blender."The disassembled barrels go into the tank with the whiskey, like loose tea in a tea pot, until it has steeped to perfection. That's the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbk Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Fantastic, Chuck! Thanks for getting to the bottom of this, and thanks for the tasting notes. It sounds like it's worth a try, at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightNoChaser Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I have some answers from Brown-Forman. Collingwood is the town in Ontario where the Canadian Mist Distillery is located. They are making barrels from Maple wood and toasting them at the Brown-Forman Cooperage in Louisville. The barrels are similar to what they used for Woodford but they're not saying it's actually those barrels. No reason it can't be."These barrels are then disassembled and shipped to Collingwood, where they are added to the final blend of the Collingwood Whisky, imparting their toasted Maplewood character, for a time that is determined by our Master Distiller/Blender."The disassembled barrels go into the tank with the whiskey, like loose tea in a tea pot, until it has steeped to perfection. That's the process.That was another suspicion I had as well. Glad that's cleared up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightNoChaser Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I have to admit Collingwood is very popular around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I have to admit Collingwood is very popular around here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissinER101 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I don't know; just looking at that bottle I can almost taste the smell of over powering perfume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickert Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Every time I see the word "Collingwood" in this thread title, I keep thinking you all are talking about my favorite Australian Rules Football team: The Collingwood Magpies. But alas.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowdery Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I keep thinking about Collinwood Manor from Dark Shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 What comes to mind is Capt. Collingwood from the John Wayne movie Ft. Apache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfish Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 DrinkHacker offers a review. Opening with:"Never mind what's inside Collingwood: You don't get very far without admiring the bottle. I know I'm a sucker for a nice decanter, but this thing is ridiculous, like an overgrown Chanel bottle or a glass, whisky-filled Zippo."but they do give it an A- rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Saw this at a store today priced at $22.69, was tempted but had my hands full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 And yeah, if I hadn't read the description here I still would have thought cologne bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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