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Another Age Statement Bites the Dust (And More Recent COLA Findings)

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White Dog Virtuoso

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That would be awesome

Im assuming it would come from the old stash that other ryes came from such as V21 and the Hirsch bottlings?

I wish this was true, but given the words "North American Rye," I'm guessing they found something north of the border. But who knows? It's not like I expect a straight answer.

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Josh Guru

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Good lord! I am with you on this one. They're a little too proud of their concoctions for the price. This is perhaps the most gimmicky bourbon concept I have yet seen.

Worse than the Jefferson's Boat Bourbon? At least the Four Wood thing makes some sense.

Chuck? where are you? someone is suggesting that woodford MC series isn't worth it. You gotta tell him its worth the education and this is great experimentation that a big distillery should be doing.

sorry, was that ad homonym? Please don't ban me. :cool:

I think you mean ad hominem.

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To elaborate: ad hominem is Latin for to the/a man. It refers to an argument or statement that is against a person rather than an idea. Example: "You're a jerk so you would think that Benchmark sucks."

Homonyms are different words that are spelled the same. Example: "I saw Chuck chuck another empty bottle of Lot B into the recycle bin."

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qman22 Enthusiast

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Bored at work today, so I killed some time browsing the COLA website. Found some interesting things...

Next year's Four Roses Single Barrel LE

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12298001000451

Jefferson's Chef's Collaboration

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12299001000018

Jefferson's Presidential Select 21

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12320001000005

Old Forester Single Barrel

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12321001000115

There are actually 2 Old Forester Single Barrels listed, one for 100 proof and one for 90 proof. The more recent label submission is 90 proof, so I'm thinking maybe they changed their mind on the proof of this one? They are going the wrong direction :banghead:

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Bored at work today, so I killed some time browsing the COLA website. Found some interesting things...

Next year's Four Roses Single Barrel LE

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12298001000451

Jefferson's Chef's Collaboration

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12299001000018

Jefferson's Presidential Select 21

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12320001000005

Old Forester Single Barrel

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12321001000115

There are actually 2 Old Forester Single Barrels listed, one for 100 proof and one for 90 proof. The more recent label submission is 90 proof, so I'm thinking maybe they changed their mind on the proof of this one? They are going the wrong direction :banghead:

Wow. So some more SW juice getting the 21 treatment? I wonder how much it's going to cost....

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Josh Guru

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There are actually 2 Old Forester Single Barrels listed, one for 100 proof and one for 90 proof. The more recent label submission is 90 proof, so I'm thinking maybe they changed their mind on the proof of this one? They are going the wrong direction :banghead:

Whatever the proof, they are trying something different with OF and that in itself is a step in the right direction.

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Trey Manthey Connoisseur

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Wow. So some more SW juice getting the 21 treatment? I wonder how much it's going to cost....

Perhaps, but this label doesn't mention SW as the 17 and 18 year bottlings did.

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Perhaps, but this label doesn't mention SW as the 17 and 18 year bottlings did.

It is odd, isn't it, that they did not make mention of SW. They did it clumsily with the 17 and 18 bottles, leading some to wonder the juice's true origin.

If it is SW, why wouldn't you advertise it?

Maybe the juice is from somewhere else?

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T Comp Disciple

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With regard to the Jefferson's whiskey brand which is owned by spirits company Castle Brands Inc., who also has a 60% ownership in Gosling's Rum and said rum is bottled at Heaven Hill...hmmm.

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HighHorse Enthusiast

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Perhaps, but this label doesn't mention SW as the 17 and 18 year bottlings did.

We tasted a sample of the 21 at barrel proof back in October at a lunch with Trey. It was right around 140 proof and I'm pretty sure we committed to a barrel which should be headed our way pretty soon. I don't recall any mention of SW in this offering .. I do recall that it's pretty darn limited and we had to sing to talk him into carving out a barrel. Sadly .. I wasn't paying close enough attention to know all that was said. We'll find out for sure pretty soon & get the specifics on it.

Tasting notes are likewise difficult .. as the high proof overwhelmed .. but there was enough floral expression popping up like spring buds above the fresh snow that we did the deal.

As for SW amounts in their later releases .. Trey has been forthcoming about the fact that the SW juice was running low and .. that the releases he's coming out with now .. starting sometime in December I think .. are mostly SW .. 80 or 90%. Someone else on this board pointed out that the other 10-20% must be 18 years old to still be able to call it an 18 year old.

It would be nice to know from Trey which batches, releases, etc are pure SW .. although a tasting should be an indication.

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Phil T Guru

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I'm thinking the previous mention was bourbon, not rye

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luther.r Enthusiast

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I'm thinking the previous mention was bourbon, not rye

It looks like they have them for bourbon, rye, wheat, and corn:

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12296001000186

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12296001000207

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12296001000194

https://www.ttbonline.gov/colasonline/viewColaDetails.do?action=publicFormDisplay&ttbid=12296001000201

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Phil T Guru

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Barrel strength Mellow Corn?? Man just when I thought my life couldn't get any better!

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