Paradox Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 After seeing an ad about this new product I decided to give Trey Zoeller a call and find out a bit more about it. All I know for now is that it will be a series of releases bottled at ages between 17 years old and 25 years old at various proofs. The first bottling is expected to be released next January. He said they are still working on proof and such but he will inform me once he has all the details finalized and I'll be sure to pass that info along to you all here in this post. Also, he said that this first bottling is expected to be limited to approximately 2200 bottles give or take and that subsequent releases with different ages/proofs may be seen each quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyc Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Did he give you an idea of price , Mark? Also did he say any thing about the Jefferson's that recently came out. Is he pleased and think it well received so far? <font color="blue"> Good God Give Gene Krupa Some</font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 Unfortunately Bobby, no. We did not speak very long but he promises to contact me in a week or two when he will know more. At that time I will be sure to get an approximate price from him on the Very Old Jefferson's Reserve and also ask him about his opinions on Jefferson's in the marketplace thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Thanks for the heads-up Mark. Where did you see the ad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 One of the whiskey magazines, I forget if it was The Malt Advocate, Whiskey Magazine... One of em' I just emailed Trey asking him to please furnish me with pricing and stuff as soon as he knows more. Also I mentioned how we would love to see some photos if possible, maybe he could make showing them here an 'exclusive'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonmed Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Mark, this belongs in our new Super Premium/Specialty section. The initial release will be 20, maybe 21 yrs old. Subsequent expressions will, as you said, range from 17 to 25 y/o. All will be similarly sized batches, (2000-2400 bottles). No word on cost, but my guess is the initial VOJR will be $75-80. That's getting up there in Pappy's range, let's hope it delivers an extraordinary tasting experience.Omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 Thanks Omar, yeah forgot to post it down here... If the tasting experience is a good one, that price range would be respectable for a 20-21 year product. If that will in fact be the price-range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurphyDawg Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Mark, this belongs in our new Super Premium/Specialty section. Way ahead of you Omar ! TomC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Mark,Will any of these be Single Barrels or considered Small Batch?Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 I am going to go out on a limb and guess that they will be small batch releases. But hey, you never now, maybe they will eventually do a single barrel release. But as I do get more info from Trey I will be sure to post it in here for everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurphyDawg Posted October 13, 2003 Share Posted October 13, 2003 Way to get us the inside scoop, my man! Are these all variations in age and proof on the Jefferson Reserve bottling or are their alternate mashbills at play (example is this going to be sismilar to Birthday bourbon in purpose or is it like BT antiques??)?Tom (investigative) C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted October 13, 2003 Author Share Posted October 13, 2003 Very good question Tom. I actually had that one, along with a growing list of others, already written on my list of 'to find out' from Trey when we next speak When I tried getting some info this morning from him he really didn't know a whole bunch yet, but he says that he'll have alot more information in a few weeks so I just left it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgiammarco Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Where did you see the ad? malt advocate 3Q 2003 page 14-chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillman Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 I'm not clear on the status of McLain & Kyne: is it a free-standing, independent distillery, a subsidiary (like Labrot & Graham) of a large company, or independent dealer? I should know this but do not, and would appreciate the info. Thanks.Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyc Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 It is owned by Trey Zoeller and his brother,Chet. They have as far as I know 2 labels, Sam Houston and the various incarnations of Jefferson's Reserve. Even Kulsveen does the bottling for them . The whiskey comes from someone with excess capacity,some say Heaven Hill, I think the Jeffersons tastes like Barton ( MashBill) to me. I guess whoever knows is laughing up their sleeve at that last one, particularly if it isn't. <font color="blue"> Good God Give Frank Beard Some </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 Where does Even do the bottling bobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyc Posted October 14, 2003 Share Posted October 14, 2003 At Willetts old Distillery, Which I think is the picture on McClain & Kyne Website. It's on passed Heaven Hill toward Maker's Mark , Up on the hill to the left, near the burned out HH distillery. I guess every one knows but I'll repeat it here. Even married Thompson Willetts Daughter, Martha. <font color="red"> Good God Give Terry Bozzio Some </font> I have looked again at the picture on their website, and several others that I have. I think that indeed it is the Willett distillery in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillman Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Thanks Bobby, and ... Good God give some to Mr. Cox! Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bourbonmed Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Guys,Our spy Brenda checked this place out two years ago...it was nothing more than a storage facility if memory serves. Omar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyc Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 I thought it was understood that no distilling has taken place there since a failed attempt to convert the distillery for fuel alcohol in the 70s. Sorry. <font color="blue">Good God Give Graeme Edge Some </font> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitzg Posted October 15, 2003 Share Posted October 15, 2003 Several liquor store people in several states (TN, KY, IND) when they see me looking at bourbon have asked if I've tried Jeff. Reserve. They seem to think it is very good and selling well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted October 15, 2003 Author Share Posted October 15, 2003 Greg, we were wondering how the new Jefferson's that was released recently was doing in the marketplace. (at least I think Bobby was talking about the new Jefferson's release when he asked about how it is doing so far) Though it is nice to see that even Jefferson's Reserve is doing well too. It's a shame it doesnt find its way onto my bar more often... I usually grab it when there is a good sale going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted November 11, 2003 Author Share Posted November 11, 2003 I just wanted to tell anyone who may be waiting for an update about VOJR that I still have not heard from Trey. I've emailed him at the email addy he gave me (seemed like his personal one if you ask me) and I still haven't heard anything back. He did say that it may be a few weeks so here's to hoping he didn't forget us! I'll give him one more week and then resend the original email. I did ask many of the fine questions that you all posed in this thread so I'll get back to everyone soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted November 12, 2003 Share Posted November 12, 2003 Mark, It takes patience -- lots of patience -- more patience than any one man can stand!!! So in the meantime, I'll just have another one, sit back and relax, and wait for the reply!! Here's to you . I am having a great time tonight!! Tonight is very special to me - remember it is Veteran's Day. Cheers, Marvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted November 12, 2003 Author Share Posted November 12, 2003 Tonight is very special to me - remember it is Veteran's Day. So true Marvin, it is a special day here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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