JPK Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Hello Friends, I'm trying to get a list together of pours that have a higher than average level of "char" in the taste. Enough to actually tell it's there..and not necessarily in balance either. From the very few I've tasted I would put these on the list. EWB (the most assertive so far) EW 1783 (just a little) EB (I don't care for this pour..though I could taste some char..maybe because of the filtering after distilling?) I'm thinking of trying fighting cock next as I've heard some talk of char in the taste. I like the char taste and would enjoy sampling some well rounded pours that have a higher level than average char flavor. Maybe I'll work on compiling a list of non-chill filtered bourbons...maybe they would have more particles of char left in them...? Thanks for the help! John Edited January 9, 2017 by JPK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richnimrod Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 You might wanna try Jack Daniel's Barrel Proof. It's not particularly complex or deep; but, it does have a good deal of char along with sweetness and cereal, and no shortage of proof-ahge. HA! It's pretty good for what it is, and I like it well enough that I replaced it before I ran through the first bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share Posted January 9, 2017 haven't seen it around these parts..but I'd be willing to try it for sure. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Limegoldconvertible68 Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Have you tried Cooper's Craft? I've only had it once but I remember a lot of char in it. I think it's only available in the south though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 6 hours ago, Richnimrod said: You might wanna try Jack Daniel's Barrel Proof. It's not particularly complex or deep; but, it does have a good deal of char along with sweetness and cereal, and no shortage of proof-ahge. HA! It's pretty good for what it is, and I like it well enough that I replaced it before I ran through the first bottle. What Rich said. AND, I did the same thing - bought a replacement before I was halfway through the first one. And, I now have two on the shelf in addition to the open one. Can't be too careful. You just never know what B-F is going to do with its spirit. Also, I just finished off my KC 2001, Batch 1 (100 proof, BTW). At $133 per, I won't likely buy another - just not 5 times better than basic KC which I like well enough. BUT, sipping it neat reminds me enough of a 2" charcoal grilled bone-in sirloin steak that my mouth waters just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 never heard of Cooper's craft either. that KC sounds like a winner!...dang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conquistador Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Many people on SB have said that W12 has a noticeable amount of char, to the point of being sooty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) now that is interesting.. W12 Thanks! Edited January 10, 2017 by JPK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flahute Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Conquistador said: Many people on SB have said that W12 has a noticeable amount of char, to the point of being sooty. I was going to suggest this one but decided not to since it's impossible to find anymore. It's true though. It was one of my first impressions when I first started drinking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 17 hours ago, Conquistador said: Many people on SB have said that W12 has a noticeable amount of char, to the point of being sooty. Can confirm, wrt two bottles I tasted about a year ago. The ashy/sooty came through in the finish. If it was limited to a few poorer barrels, you would think that the master (ahem) blenders could have blended it away. Since they didn't, it may have affected a larger number of bottles. Recent tasting notes I've read haven't had the ashy criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 ^^^I think it was the '13 run of W12 where this characteristic was often cited. Quite a bit of that distillate would have been sold into '14 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrPeMi Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Larceny I frequently get a major hit of barrel char from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Just thought I'd chime in on this one. Since starting this I've tried quite a few other bourbons. Found out KCSB is my fav...so far lol Also Really liking extra oak and char in my bourbons. I actually really like Devil's cut and Double oaked from JB....could be higher proof though. Need to pick up JBB to try also want to take up GrPeMi's idea of Larceny. Can any of you think of some other real oak & char bombs? Thanks Edited November 15, 2017 by JPK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Government Beard Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Give Woodford Double Oaked a try if you can. I forget what the proof is but I was pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Vino Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 In just the best way, George T Stagg is the king of char. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Oh Boy..I'd love to try that stuff (GTS)...around here it's a little pricey though...$90...if you can find it. ...never seen it at a bar either.... That WRDO does sound good. Still $67 in these parts. I don't mind WR...good idea! Edited November 15, 2017 by JPK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 For dirt, grit, leaf mold, mushroom, Good Earth, charcoal flavor, lately I've reached for OE 7yr. It is a perfect cold day sipper to me after or during yard work. Like earlier today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 I do like actually really like OE7. In fact it is in my top 3 $20-$25 bottles. (OE7,WT101,JBDO)...depends on mood. Have to admit I never really picked up the flavors you describe. ...there is a flavor in there I haven't been able to nail down though...maybe I can taste again with your thoughts in mind. ...."dirt, grit, leaf mold, mushroom, Good Earth, charcoal flavor" actually sounds good to me...lol...now I'm thirsty...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry in WashDC Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, JPK said: I do like actually really like OE7. In fact it is in my top 3 $20-$25 bottles. (OE7,WT101,JBDO)...depends on mood. Have to admit I never really picked up the flavors you describe. ...there is a flavor in there I haven't been able to nail down though...maybe I can taste again with your thoughts in mind. ...."dirt, grit, leaf mold, mushroom, Good Earth, charcoal flavor" actually sounds good to me...lol...now I'm thirsty...lol Stores here carry it more often than they used to, and that makes me really happy now that late Fall is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Darnit Virtuoso....lol I've only had it during the summer. ....never even thought about it being a "autumn/winter comfort" pour. I gotta get some more...lol Been looking forward to sipping some KCSB during passes with the snowblower...lol...maybe I'll get on with some OE7 also. ...hope it snows a lot...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 Well... my Wife..bless her...Was at the store and saw a long searched for bottle of Fighting Cock. She picked it up for me. Must say...not bad for the price and alc% It is basically all sweet, vanilla , and some burn....though not bad for the proof...the sweetness helps with that. no char or oak that I can pick up in any amounts. ...but it is ok for the price & proof if ya like sweet and vanilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarthQuake Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Basically anything in the 10-20 year range if you like char/oak. Here are some that range from easy to only moderately hard to find. Orphan Barrel Forged Oak or Barterhouse if you can find them. Despite the internet hate Gifted Horse was pretty good and had a decent amount of oak too. IW Harper 15 year Eagle Rare 10, I would say this is the best value for sure if you like a bit of oak, store picks can be very good Elijah Craig, 12/NAS/BP all have a bit of oak, 18 especially Henry McKenna 10 BIB Russell's Reserve 10 year or Single Barrel Knob Creek SB store pick in the 12-14 year range High West Bourye Whistlepig 10/12 rye, the 10 year store picks are especially good Lock Stock & Barrel rye 13/16 year Edited November 16, 2017 by EarthQuake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncredulousNosco Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 22 minutes ago, JPK said: Fighting Cock. ..but it is ok for the price & proof if ya like sweet and vanilla. FC is good for the price. But you should try it aged 12 years and bottled at barrel proof, and called ECBP. Then you'll find the char, and a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) I have a bottle of ECBP...bought it to try to replace EC12. Not the same...too much variance per batch I think. Darn good pour though. And definitely some oak too Edited November 16, 2017 by JPK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPK Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Thanks earthquake. I've only had a few of those listed HMcKenna BIB, ER10, and ECNAS. I'll have to look into the others you listed. You may well be right in looking for 10yr+ Wish my wallet agreed...lol Edited November 16, 2017 by JPK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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