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Four Roses employees on strike

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0895

Ugh.

Now I'll have to get my yellow label from the flippers...

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Richnimrod

Bummer!    I certainly hope an equitable arrangement is made soon and the workers, as well as the management, can walk away from these negotiations confident in the future.

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BDanner
7 hours ago, 0895 said:

Ugh.

Now I'll have to get my yellow label from the flippers...

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BDanner

The Yellow Label bottle cappers are angry that they've been replaced by Yellow Label corkers.

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PaulO

Is one of the grievances - a full 10 years for single barrel picks? Ha-ha

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smokinjoe

Anyone have any details and specifics on company offers and union demands?  All I’ve heard are some general talking points from a couple of picketers.  

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flahute

Drove by Cox’s Creek this morning and the picketers were out by the main road. 

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fishnbowljoe

I seem to remember this same thing happening around 8 years ago or so. I just can’t remember if it was Four Roses or Wild Turkey though. Anyone care to chime in?

 

Biba! Joe

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Harry in WashDC
54 minutes ago, flahute said:

Drove by Cox’s Creek this morning and the picketers were out by the main road. 

Heck of a commute, Steve - Seattle by way of . . .:D

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lcpfratn
Heck of a commute, Steve - Seattle by way of . . .

I was thinking the same thing Harry. He’s likely in town for a Bourbon Crusaders barrel pick...still a bit early for KYBF.
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The Black Tot

Don't be too hasty.

 

He could also be foiling the plot of an evil mastermind to take over the world.

 

Gold foiling it, even...

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flahute
3 hours ago, The Black Tot said:

Don't be too hasty.

 

He could also be foiling the plot of an evil mastermind to take over the world.

 

Gold foiling it, even...

I love the confidence you have in me!

 

Yes, in town for a barrel pick.  We wanted to do it next weekend but the distillery is going to be busy with KBF so it wouldn’t work out.

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The Black Tot
1 minute ago, flahute said:

Yes, in town for a barrel pick.  We wanted to do it next weekend but the distillery is going to be busy with KBF so it wouldn’t work out.

This is exactly what a superhero who did not want to alarm the general public about how close they came to total extinction would say...

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GaryT
18 hours ago, smokinjoe said:

Anyone have any details and specifics on company offers and union demands?  All I’ve heard are some general talking points from a couple of picketers.  

Same here; I suppose both sides have some type of confidentiality agreement (or at least are trying to respect the process to not put in print what might be incorrect or misleading elements).  From what I heard in some of those talking points, they seemed reasonable - although these things are almost never as simple as a couple talking points (if they were, they'd crack open a bottle of small batch and just git r done!) 

 

Hope that both sides resolve this equitably and soon.  The whole family atmosphere within the bourbon world is something I'm always amazed at, and hope this is just a dinner-spat :) 

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smokinjoe

I find it interesting that there seems to be no mention of overtime issues.  The boom has these guys going all in for literally years trying to keep up, and I think I remember more than a few grievances as to forced overtime at some distilleries.  Maybe, that’s not in play at 4R at the moment? 

Youre right Gary, in regards to making a judgement on fairness either way from our nose bleed seats perspective.  So much involved we don’t know.  

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JvW
On 9/8/2018 at 6:49 PM, flahute said:

Drove by Cox’s Creek this morning and the picketers were out by the main road. 

Same here, on my way to work and came by the picketers at 2am; first I thought that it was accident scene (hard to tell in the dark) but soon realized that it wasn't as I slowed down(thank goodness)...

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CUfan99
18 minutes ago, JvW said:

Same here, on my way to work and came by the picketers at 2am; first I thought that it was accident scene (hard to tell in the dark) but soon realized that it wasn't as I slowed down(thank goodness)...

Picketing at 2 am? The union must pay good. 

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Richnimrod
11 hours ago, CUfan99 said:

Picketing at 2 am? The union must pay good. 

Or, the 'night shift' doesn't wanna change their schedule....

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Louisiana

 

This is very interesting. There will be a resolution, because each side needs each other. I own/operate a small buisness, but only deal with salary/hourly employees. The union deal is a completely different thing. Every decision made needs to positively benefit 4R. It’s just good buisness. Having worked 5 years for a large company straight out of college, I do understand each side of the equation. Good workers are hard to come by & should be fairly compensated. We’ll see what happens.

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The Black Tot

You can understand 4R needing to pay the next generation of employees a worse benefits package, since sales are so poor and it's a really tough market for them and...

 

Oh.

 

 

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flahute
1 hour ago, The Black Tot said:

You can understand 4R needing to pay the next generation of employees a worse benefits package, since sales are so poor and it's a really tough market for them and...

 

Oh.

 

 

Kind of what I'm thinking. 

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